Totally agree




El vie, 11-05-2012 a las 09:04 +0200, Peter Schofield escribió:

> Hello
> 
> I have been following this discussion and found it very interesting. However, 
> I would like to make one suggestion for the paragraph styles - KISS - keep it 
> simple st----.
> 
> One example - why is there three styles for numbers and lists? There should 
> be just one for each, that is OOoNum 123 and OOoList 1. There is no need for 
> Start, Cont and End styles if you set paragraph spacing correctly.
> 
> Second example - why do the style names begin with OOo? It would be better to 
> simply name each style as Heading 1, Heading 2, and so on. This would make it 
> easier to import the template into other software because other software 
> normally uses Heading 1, Heading 2, and so on for style names.
> 
> My experience comes from working in MS Word to initially create a document 
> and then using Framemaker for the publishing program, which my opinion was 
> one of the best in the market. So easy to compile many chapters into one 
> massive manual.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Peter Schofield
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> On 10 May 2012, at 23:12, Gary Schnabl wrote:
> 
> > I haven't gotten around to recheck all the list paragraphs styles yet for 
> > v. 3.5.x--easy to do, using the factory-default parameters. However, the 
> > older OOo styles (v. 3.3.x) did not have consistent formatting for all the 
> > Ns, in addition to OOo's having buggy styles that could not properly be 
> > reformatted outside of a narrow indentation range for many Ns.
> > 
> > IMO, all those list paragraph styles need to be reformatted, according to 
> > the intended purposes for them by users or template designers, anyway.
> > 
> > 
> > Gary
> > 
> > On 5/10/2012 3:22 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> >> Hi :)
> >> Gary, Carlos said thanks on the Users List. Cheers chap
> >> Regards from
> >> Tom :)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --- On Thu, 10/5/12, Carlos Pita<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >> <snip />
> >> 
> >> Gary has clarified the issue. Perhaps the styles should all be
> >> indented the same by default and just control the interline spacing
> >> and things like that.
> >> 
> >> Another related issue is the purpose of the "List N" vs "List N Cont"
> >> paragraph styles. From the indentation in the styles one can infer
> >> what follows:
> >> 
> >> | aditional space here
> >> First item<--- Start style
> >> 
> >> Internal item<--- base style
> >>    Continuation of internal item<--- Cont style
> >> 
> >> Last item<--- End style
> >> | aditional space here
> >> 
> >> That cont seems to be intended to follow the base style is suggested
> >> by the default indentation of the manually formatted lists. For
> >> example:
> >> 
> >> 2. Iternal item
> >>     More text
> >> 
> >>     Continuation of item 2
> >> 
> >> The indentation provided by the Cont style is exactly the indentation
> >> needed by "Continuation of item 2" in a manually formatted list in
> >> order to be left aligned with the item text. But this seems misleading
> >> again, because the guide explains that Start will be usually linked to
> >> Cont which will be linked to End, for lists where a single style (the
> >> base style) isn't enough. Briefly, the alternative interpretations
> >> are:
> >> 
> >> Start->base(->Cont)->End
> >> 
> >> vs
> >> 
> >> Start->Cont->End   or   base  (for simple formatting requirements)
> >> 
> >> I'll copy the relevant passages of the documentation for this last
> >> issue asap, but you can see that the problem is essentially the same:
> >> default style indentation that seems to be at odds with the usage
> >> described by the guide, maybe because of historical reasons.
> >> 
> >> Thanks a lot
> >> --
> >> Carlos
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
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