Hi :) Hmmm, it sounds like i really did get muddled up then. Thanks for setting me straight :)
Btw jic = just in case lqtm = laughs quietly to myself Regards from Tom :) >________________________________ > From: Girvin R. Herr <girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net> >To: Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> >Cc: Peter Schofield <psaut...@gmail.com>; Lo documentation ><documentation@global.libreoffice.org> >Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2013, 23:23 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings > >Tom, >See below... > >Tom Davies wrote: >> Hi :) >> Errr, i think a few confusions going on. Hopefully by team-leader you mean >> Dan (for Base) or Jean (the whole Docs Team). >Yes. Dan instructed me to use separate files inserted into the document. As >I said, I have no problem with that. The whole reason I asked about which >method to use, was to get direction. That question has been answered to my >satisfaction. >> >> When i put pictures in a document i usually just grab the image from the >> file-browser and drop it into the document and then resize, change anchor >> type and drag it into position. Is that not OLE? >No. OLE stands for Object Linking and Embedding. It was first developed by >Microsoft as a method to invoke another application while inside an >application. In this case, LO Writer is the main application and Draw is the >other application. When an OLE object is instantiated in a document, double >clicking on that object, in this case a drawing, will bring up the Draw editor >and allow editing the object (drawing) while still in the document. When the >OLE application is closed by clicking outside the object's frame, the document >reverts to the framed object (drawing). Note that the OLE method is only for >use with LO components. You can't take a screenshot and make it an OLE. >(Well, on second thought maybe you can, if Draw will import it. But that would >be nonsense, since Draw would probably not edit it. However, one could >probably add widgets to the screenshot with Draw.) If you do the: > > Insert -> Object -> OLE Object > >You will find a list of the LO components that can be used for OLE in Writer: > > Spreadsheet (Calc) > Chart > Drawing (Draw) > Presentation (Impress) > Formula > >You get the picture (Is that a pun? Sorry.) >> Clearly it's not DDL (or whatever that was) because i don't have to keep the >> image file handy. (well, i do jic but only because of the bugs thing) >DDL, lets see, I used to know what that was. I am out of touch with the >Microsoft-isms. Something like Dynamic Data Linking ( I am guessing). jlc? >That a new one on me. I am sorry. I assumed everyone in this forum >understood what OLE was, since it is and has been for some time, an OOo/LO >option. I broke my own rule about defining acronyms before I use them, Sorry. >> >> If i need to edit an image i never even try from inside the document. It's >> either back tot he original or latest version i can find or right-click the >> image and save it outside the document. It just feels wrong doing it inside >> the document but i might try it a few times from now on. >> Regards from >> Tom :) >OLE is just another tool. Use whatever fits one's hand. >Girvin Herr > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Girvin R. Herr <girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net> >> *To:* Peter Schofield <psaut...@gmail.com> >> *Cc:* Lo documentation <documentation@global.libreoffice.org> >> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 February 2013, 22:04 >> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed >> drawings >> >> Peter, >> Thanks for the suggestion. >> Your last sentence appears to me to be confused. When I state >> Draw OLE object, what I mean is: >> >> Insert -> Object -> OLE Object -> LibreOffice 3.6 Drawing >> >> This creates a drawing at the cursor "directly in Writer", as you >> say, not as a separate file. >> I have been doing a lot of drawings in my many documents this way >> and I have never had a problem with it. No such lost links. It >> seems to me that if the drawing and the method to edit it were in >> the document itself, and not in an external file, it would be a >> lot safer, accessible, and stable. But that is just my opinion. >>This is now a moot point, since that opinion has been overridden >> by the document team leader, who prefers inserting separate files >> and keeping them in a zipped file in the same directory as the >> document. That's okay with me too, if that is the policy. That >> is why I asked the original question - what is the preference? >> >> IMHO, the only downside of using Draw as an OLE is that the OLE >> version of Draw has a feature subset of the stand-alone Draw >> program. For example, the OLE Draw does not have the Zoom >> capability, which makes it difficult sometimes to view the drawing >> properly when working on it. It also has some strange >> interactions with the document frame that it goes into, making it >> difficult to get the scale and position as one wants it inside the >> frame. That can be annoying sometimes and I am not privy as to >> why it was done that way. >> Thanks again. >> Girvin Herr >> >> >> >> Peter Schofield wrote: >> > Hello Girvin >> > >> > When I grab a screen shot or create an illustration, I save it >> as a PNG file. I then copy the file and paste it into a Writer >> document. >> > >> > In my opinion, OLE objects are only really useful if your >> document is staying within the same directory structure because a >> link to an OLE object can easily be broken. I avoid OLE objects >> because the documents I create do get moved around a lot. Copy and >> paste or creating drawings directly in Writer should be a lot >> safer from getting lost. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Peter Schofield >> > psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com> >> > >> > >> > On 23 Feb 2013, at 20:37, Girvin R. Herr wrote: >> > >> > >> Greetings, >> >> I am about to create a figure in Draw for one of the Base Guide >> documents. I can either create an external Draw file and insert >> that file into the document, or I can use the embedded (OLE) Draw >> version and have the figure embedded in the document. The former >> requires the Draw file to be maintained (saved) along with the >> document, risk being lost, and if lost, need to be re-created if >> future editing is required. The OLE version goes with the >> document, has no additional file to maintain, and will always be >> there for future editing. I prefer the OLE style, but what is the >> consensus of the documentation team? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Girvin Herr >> >> >> > >> > >-- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
