Hi Lera,

Thanks for your comments. As a first-time producer of LO documentation I wasn't 
sure about the MS Office reference. I put it in as many years ago I used 
Office, and found that the LO syntax rules for parameter names/prompts a bit 
confusing when I tried to put some spaces in. But I'm 100% happy for you to 
remove that paragraph. I realise that LO is nothing whatsoever to do with 
Office!

"Designer/developer". No problem with changing it. Your wording is better. I 
should have thought of it.

"User". We need some way to distinguish the person who is using the database 
from the person developing it. After all, the concept of the parameter query 
was designed to allow the person using the database to input parameter values. 
Do you have a better word? Maybe recast the sentences using it to say something 
like "at run-time" (which is in the first sentence. If you prefer that I'll 
send a revised version in, but I think it will be difficult not to mention the 
fact that it's a human being that inputs the parameter value. I notice that the 
original version had "you" - whoever that might be - which strikes me as even 
less professional.

There's also the problem of the paragraph which I didn't understand. I think 
that what the original author was trying to say was that parameter queries are 
commonly used in subforms to restrict the records to be displayed. Is that your 
impression? If so, I can rewrite it. It also should be moved to the section on 
Parameter queries - it's nothing to do with input.

Your English is better than my Russian!

Best regards,

Peter
mailto:[email protected]
www.ptoye.com

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Monday, November 23, 2015, 6:31:57 PM, you wrote:


Hi Peter, 

Your changes look very good. It really begins to look more professional and 
easier to read and translate. Thank you a lot for your contribution. I can 
prepare the patch in the nearest future. 

I have only a few proposals. 
We can not use a reference to an application of a competitive office suite like 
MS Access. In the official Help this looks very strange. If we assume that a 
human can have difficulties in learning LibreOffice from habits to work with 
another popular office application, we need to tell about differences, but 
without using reference to this application. LibreOffice is not a fork of MSO. 
There are many other office suites as GoogleDrive, GNOME Office, Calligra Suite 
etc. And we should not make a comparative table out of the Help. 
I think that the sentence “For designers familiar with Access, the prompt is 
more restricted as it cannot contain spaces or reserved characters.” needs 
changing. 

A mention of a user does not let the Help to look professional. In my opinion, 
this can be done for a Guide or FAQ, but we need to avoid it, and to focus on 
a functional description. 

The last, for me “designers of a database” looks strange. I am used to see 
“developers of a database”. I am not an English native speaker, and I can not 
be sure, but when I get the order on a database, usually I am called 
“developer”. I really don't know what we need to use in this case, just to 
draw your attention. 

What do you think about these? 

Best regards, 
Lera 

В письме от 20 ноября 2015 11:06:10 пользователь ptoye написал: 

> Regina, 
> 
> Thanks Regina. I've already noted this as a bug so I'll attach it there. 
> Thanks ever so much for your help and patience with a (LO documentation) 
> beginner. 
> 
> Best regards, 
> 
> Peter 
> mailto:[hidden email] 
> www.ptoye.com 
> 
> ------------------------- 
> Friday, November 20, 2015, 3:51:53 PM, you wrote: 
> 
> 
> Hi Peter, 
> 
> ptoye schrieb: 
> > Thanks Regina - I got it and installed it. I've now amended the relevant 
> > help page. Do I upload the whole page here, or just the bits I changed? 
> > Or send it somewhere else? 
> 
> This list strips attachments, therefore you cannot attach it here. 
> 
> LibreOffice uses its Bugzilla to track bugs, enhancements and feature 
> requests. For how to use Bugzilla see 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport#Submitting_a_bug
> 
> If you do not have a Bugzilla account yet, you need to create one. 
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/createaccount.cgi
> 
> With using Bugzilla and an account there, your changes get the correct 
> license automatically. 
> 
> "Product" is of cause LibreOffice. 
> For changes in the help pages use the component "Documentation". 
> 
> I think it is better to attach the whole file. That way others can 
> generate a diff file, which is needed in the further work flow. 
> 
> Look, whether a bug exists, that already describe the problem. If yes, 
> then attach the changed file there. 
> 
> If no bug exists, create a new report. When creating a new report the 
> form will have a button "Add an attachment". Use that to attach the 
> changed file. Do not forget to describe, why the current version of the 
> help page is wrong. 
> 
> Kind regards 
> Regina 


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