Hi Milos

Thank you for that.

Em 22/07/2016 08:54, Milos Sramek escreveu:
> Hi Olivier,
> 
> you can find the modified files at
> http://bender.dam.fmph.uniba.sk/~milos/GS51-cleanup . There are three
> folders:
> orig - the original downloaded from the odfauthors page
> manual - manual modifications of origs
> clean - files from manual cleaned by the script (you can find it in the 
> manual folder). This is a new version of the script, the earlier one was
> unable to remove certain combinantions of tags. You will notice it if
> you try to translate in the future - the new version is "cleaner"
> 
> I've compared the manual and cleaned files using the "Compare documents"
> function. LO 4.4 does not show any differences, LO 5.1 shows "empty
> differences", which seem to me to be result of a bug in LO 51.
> 
> I've also visually compared one document page by page, no differences
> were visible.

That is a good indication that the path is correct.

> 
> 
> I manually modified a few index entries, references and formattings - a
> few manual changes to italics or bold or a few changes from styled text
> to plain text (with style kept). Comparison of orig and manual or orig
> and clean shows these changes and sometimes shows differences where
> there are none (e.g. show that xxx was replaced by xxx).

Please bear in mind that categories for references are not translatable,
thus it is necessary to change - e.g. - [Figure 3] to Figure [3] because
in the second case, "Figure" can be translated.

> 
> I have also modified styles. For example, where both "Strong emphasis"
> and and LOStrongEmphasis were used, I have removed the first and
> replaced it with the second.

Makes sense.

> 
> In the first chapters only LO styles (LOEmphasis LOStrongEmphasis,...)
> are used now, but later the older OOO styles (inheriting from
> OOODefault) are used. Does it make sense to change them to LO styles and
> thus make it the same in all chapters? I just do not know how to make
> them really the same - maybe using a common template? Renaming in
> individusl file probably is not enough.

At the moment, I'd like to avoid excessive manual workload and delays.
If it is easy to do (perhaps a 4 lines macro can do it, not sure...)
then ok.

When time comes to define the styles for the next version (6.0), then I
think we can go thru a revision of the styles aesthetics and include our
expertise in working with styles.

> 
> I'll process the remaining two files once they are finished

Thanks again for your priceless help.

> 
> Milos
> 
> 
> On 2016-07-18 17:34, Olivier Hallot wrote:
>> Hi Milos
>>
>> Em 18/07/2016 09:22, Milos Sramek escreveu:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> some time ago I've cleaned up files for GS 4.2 and I would like to do
>>> the same also for 5.1. The modifications are mostly oriented towards
>>> translation - in order to make it possible (often messy) direct
>>> formatting should be removed by a clean up script. In order to not to
>>> spoil formatting, prior to that I want to check and correct all formatting:
>>> - convert direct formatting to an appropriate style if necessary (e.g.
>>> bold to LOMenuPath)
>>> - convert styles reset by direct formatting to default text to the
>>> default style
>> Thanks indeed for that. I learned the hard way while translating with
>> OmegaT.
>>
>>> Except for that I want to check index entries. Some on them are bound
>>> directly to text - in languages with inflection this results in
>>> inflected entries in the index, which is bad.
>> Yes. Although I managed to convert references from e.g.
>> [Figure n]
>> to
>> Figure [n]
>>
>> I may have let some of them pass.
>>
>>> I have in fact already done this for most  of the files - the rest will
>>> take me a few days. I will also check for any text changes, to make sure
>>> no changes were introduced.
>> Thak you very much indeed. Much appreciated.
>>> Olievier, pls, wait a few day with the update to 5.2
>>>
>> yes, of course. Let me know when you're done.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>>> best Milos
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016-07-18 02:42, Olivier Hallot wrote:
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I've added information on Impess remote at the end.
>>>>
>>>> Once Impress and Draw chapter are revised and published, the Getting
>>>> Started 5.1 Book is ready for final assembly.
>>>>
>>>> I will now take the published chapters for LO 5.1 and update for LO 5.2.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
> 
> 

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