Hi, could the "cleaned" files be published as final chapters (and not the "uncleaned" ones?). It would be much better because the l10n teams would have access to the really cleaned 5.2 chapters for translation?
Thanks, m. 2016-07-23 15:33 GMT+02:00 Olivier Hallot <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org>: > Hi Milos > > Thank you for that. > > Em 22/07/2016 08:54, Milos Sramek escreveu: > > Hi Olivier, > > > > you can find the modified files at > > http://bender.dam.fmph.uniba.sk/~milos/GS51-cleanup . There are three > > folders: > > orig - the original downloaded from the odfauthors page > > manual - manual modifications of origs > > clean - files from manual cleaned by the script (you can find it in the > > manual folder). This is a new version of the script, the earlier one was > > unable to remove certain combinantions of tags. You will notice it if > > you try to translate in the future - the new version is "cleaner" > > > > I've compared the manual and cleaned files using the "Compare documents" > > function. LO 4.4 does not show any differences, LO 5.1 shows "empty > > differences", which seem to me to be result of a bug in LO 51. > > > > I've also visually compared one document page by page, no differences > > were visible. > > That is a good indication that the path is correct. > > > > > > > I manually modified a few index entries, references and formattings - a > > few manual changes to italics or bold or a few changes from styled text > > to plain text (with style kept). Comparison of orig and manual or orig > > and clean shows these changes and sometimes shows differences where > > there are none (e.g. show that xxx was replaced by xxx). > > Please bear in mind that categories for references are not translatable, > thus it is necessary to change - e.g. - [Figure 3] to Figure [3] because > in the second case, "Figure" can be translated. > > > > > I have also modified styles. For example, where both "Strong emphasis" > > and and LOStrongEmphasis were used, I have removed the first and > > replaced it with the second. > > Makes sense. > > > > > In the first chapters only LO styles (LOEmphasis LOStrongEmphasis,...) > > are used now, but later the older OOO styles (inheriting from > > OOODefault) are used. Does it make sense to change them to LO styles and > > thus make it the same in all chapters? I just do not know how to make > > them really the same - maybe using a common template? Renaming in > > individusl file probably is not enough. > > At the moment, I'd like to avoid excessive manual workload and delays. > If it is easy to do (perhaps a 4 lines macro can do it, not sure...) > then ok. > > When time comes to define the styles for the next version (6.0), then I > think we can go thru a revision of the styles aesthetics and include our > expertise in working with styles. > > > > > I'll process the remaining two files once they are finished > > Thanks again for your priceless help. > > > > > Milos > > > > > > On 2016-07-18 17:34, Olivier Hallot wrote: > >> Hi Milos > >> > >> Em 18/07/2016 09:22, Milos Sramek escreveu: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> some time ago I've cleaned up files for GS 4.2 and I would like to do > >>> the same also for 5.1. The modifications are mostly oriented towards > >>> translation - in order to make it possible (often messy) direct > >>> formatting should be removed by a clean up script. In order to not to > >>> spoil formatting, prior to that I want to check and correct all > formatting: > >>> - convert direct formatting to an appropriate style if necessary (e.g. > >>> bold to LOMenuPath) > >>> - convert styles reset by direct formatting to default text to the > >>> default style > >> Thanks indeed for that. I learned the hard way while translating with > >> OmegaT. > >> > >>> Except for that I want to check index entries. Some on them are bound > >>> directly to text - in languages with inflection this results in > >>> inflected entries in the index, which is bad. > >> Yes. Although I managed to convert references from e.g. > >> [Figure n] > >> to > >> Figure [n] > >> > >> I may have let some of them pass. > >> > >>> I have in fact already done this for most of the files - the rest will > >>> take me a few days. I will also check for any text changes, to make > sure > >>> no changes were introduced. > >> Thak you very much indeed. Much appreciated. > >>> Olievier, pls, wait a few day with the update to 5.2 > >>> > >> yes, of course. Let me know when you're done. > >> > >> Kind Regards, > >> > >> Olivier > >> > >>> best Milos > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 2016-07-18 02:42, Olivier Hallot wrote: > >>>> Hi all > >>>> > >>>> I've added information on Impess remote at the end. > >>>> > >>>> Once Impress and Draw chapter are revised and published, the Getting > >>>> Started 5.1 Book is ready for final assembly. > >>>> > >>>> I will now take the published chapters for LO 5.1 and update for LO > 5.2. > >>>> > >>>> Kind regards > > > > > > -- > Olivier Hallot > Comunidade LibreOffice > Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 > http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
