They tell me it is as rich as the needles will go which makes me suspicious. I 
will get the Carbs and check myself as I think I know what is wrong. When it 
was overhauled the needles were set as per the book but hey have been playing 
with it since.
Cheers.
Nige.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rob Thompson 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [DOG mailing list] RE: Fw: GUD


  The twin SU carbies are generally zenith brand ...the mixture adjusting tool 
can be purchased from many of the VW enthusiasts shops for about $25.
  To do the initial set up on the carbs refer to the Limbach manual. After that 
I find the best way to fine tune mixture is to go by the spark plug colour - 
when you adjust the carbs make the same adjustment to each one.

  The valve seats in Nigel's photos are pretty tragic...the compression and 
performance must have been noticably on the decline for a while.......running 
too lean will burn valves and seats (mixture still burning as it leaves the 
chamber). Also the standard VW seats and valves are prone to corrosion...Nigel 
tells me the new Limbach alloy valves are anecdotally good.  Running stellite 
seats with standard valves also is much better than standard seats. Don't be 
tempted to use hard valves with hard stellite seats however as the combination 
has been reported to fail in some VW motors. 
  Rob



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  ----- Original Message ----
  From: Sean Jorgensen-Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: Nigel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; DOGS <[email protected]>
  Sent: Wednesday, 9 July, 2008 10:42:35 AM
  Subject: [DOG mailing list] RE: Fw: GUD


  Nige,
      What options are there to get the thing running richer?

      Sean

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Nigel Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, 9 July 2008 10:03 AM
  To: DOGS
  Cc: Sean Jorgensen-Day; Sean Jorgensen; Russell White; Rob Hanbury;
  Redmond Quinn; Michael Shirley; Kevin Lewis; Keith Gateley; John Hudson;
  Harry Bache; graham marsh; Gavin Wrigley; Damien O'Reilly; Colin Turner;
  Catherine Conway; Baylee Roberts
  Subject: Fw: Fw: GUD

  G'day Dogs and others.
  I have added other Limbach users to this mail for their interest.
  The attached images are from a L2000 as fitted to the Grob109 which is
  essentially the same base engine as used in the Dimona.
  The aircraft had  some suspicious damage to the Prop which required a
  Bulk Strip.
  The Crank was cracked and a new shortblock engine has been ordered.
  When we stripped the engine I did not like the look of the Valve seats
  so sent these images to the factory for comment which is below.
  Also one valve was noted to be "sticking" when turning the engine over
  during disassembly.

  Whenever Peter says something needs to be "controlled" he means
  "Checked".
  I rang to clarify a few points.
  By "Valve Play" he is referring to Tappet Clearance not Valve Stem
  clearance.
  By poor carburetion he means "Poor as apposed to Rich" thus he means
  "Lean Mixture".
  He has suggested that the corrosion  has come from the use of Avgas.
  He stated that in Europe they normally have trouble with corrosion on
  engines using Avgas and seldom found on engines running on Unleaded.
  In the past Peter has said they prefer the engine be run on Unleaded
  instead of Avgas.
  Avgas 100LL of course is still acceptable.
  This is of course 98oct unleaded so Premium Unleaded. This must be the
  98oct variety and not the 95oct.
  I use BP Ultimate.
  Of course I have a problem looming. The eastern states are now
  requiring 10% Alcohol content in car fuel and expect that will spread
  through all states. I understand the US is in the same position and much
  of Europe.
  The Limbach Engine is rated for 5% Alcohol and the last time I discussed
  this with Peter (a while ago now) he said they would be changing it to
  10% or higher. Brazil's fuel spec for instance is much higher being over
  20%.

  While my fuel hoses are rated for Alcohol I still have the FRP fuel tank
  which I believe is not. So changing to the Alloy tank is pending for me.

  That leaves the Fuel Cock and Electric Fuel Pump left in the circuit to
  worry about. The seals I put in the Fuel Cock are OK with Alcohol but
  will have to check up on the Pump.
  Something for you all to ponder if running unleaded like myself.

  Below is the correspondence as mentioned.
  Cheers.
  Nige.



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Peter Salomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "Nigel Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:30 PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: GUD


  > Nigel Baker schrieb:
  >> G'Day Peter.
  >> Attached photo's of the Cylinder heads off the engine that had the
  Shock 
  >> Load.
  >> Can you give me an opinion on the corosion to the Valve Seats.
  >> This aircraft was being flown every month but the Airfeild is near
  the 
  >> Ocean. The climate here though is not humid.
  >> There is also a grey/white powder over the surfaces of the intake
  ports 
  >> and cobustion chamber.
  >> Any ideas of why it is this bad. It is 48 hours since overhaul.
  >> Regs.
  >> Nigel.
  >>

  > Hi Nigel,
  >
  > blimey, what type of fuel fly your client?
  > After your pictures can I find some problems with the heads.
  > 1.) I think the left head on your picture is from the right engine
  site.
  > I can see that the exhaust valve from cylinder no 2 have burn tracks.
  > No valve play!
  > Slight leaky between cylinder and head.
  > Overheating failing could be poor carburation!
  > The corrosion on the seats could come from using AVGAS!
  > The beading in the ports show me very high exhaust temperature!
  > On cylinder one the intake valve have also burn tracks outside.
  > Please control this valve. No valve play could be the reason.
  >
  > A new (complete) engine will help.  ;-)
  >
  > Best regards and nice weekend.
  >
  > Peter
  >
  > 

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