Hello Ian,
 
The formulation of 100 LL and 100/130 is different, & although they are
usually higher, the lead levels in 100/130 can be as low as that of
100LL.  I will find out the exact tolerances for Australian spec fuels &
let you know.  Generally 100 LL is lower in lead than 100/130 so if you
have a choice go for the 100 LL. 
 

Regards, 
JGV. 

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From: Ian Mc Phee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DOG mailing list] RE: Fw: GUD


Somewhere I have read that our AVGAS lead content is based on the
european standards which are much lower than the USA standards.  Also I
believe all our lead values in AVGAS is much the same ie AVGAS and LL100
is much the same.  John Viney do you recall or was it Chris Kiehn I
heard it from or did I read it.  I do know a friend at Armidale NSW
(3500ft asl) had real problems with 98 about 12 months ago (think BP)
and then we found one of their tricks in refinery they have 98 down on
rating so they bubble butane thru the bad 98 to bump it to 98 but
normally this fuel goes out to be sold in capital city areas real quick.
Occasionally it makes its way up the range and this is the fuel that
should not fly as the butane immediately comes out of solution and you
no longer have 98!

I tend to take bets both ways with a blend of 98 and Avgas but give it
full avgas just before a plug inspection.  When compared to Pawnee L 540
I have little or no issues with leaded up plugs and this is in 2 and 4
strokes

As you may or may not have heard the local BP man owns all 8 BP in the
area is probably going to jail over diluting 98 fuel.  His stations were
auctioned off last week- BP are forcing him out. Estimates are he made
$500K to $1M (been going on for years local mechanics say)  as he gave
$150K to local charities   The whistle blower was a Ballina RAAus pilot.
Father and many sons were involved

It is all a bit of a worry

Ian McPhee




2008/7/9 Nigel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


        They tell me it is as rich as the needles will go which makes me
suspicious. I will get the Carbs and check myself as I think I know what
is wrong. When it was overhauled the needles were set as per the book
but hey have been playing with it since.
        Cheers.
        Nige.
         

                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Rob Thompson <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
                To: [email protected] 
                Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:51 PM
                Subject: Re: [DOG mailing list] RE: Fw: GUD

                The twin SU carbies are generally zenith brand ...the
mixture adjusting tool can be purchased from many of the VW enthusiasts
shops for about $25.
                To do the initial set up on the carbs refer to the
Limbach manual. After that I find the best way to fine tune mixture is
to go by the spark plug colour - when you adjust the carbs make the same
adjustment to each one.
                
                The valve seats in Nigel's photos are pretty
tragic...the compression and performance must have been noticably on the
decline for a while.......running too lean will burn valves and seats
(mixture still burning as it leaves the chamber). Also the standard VW
seats and valves are prone to corrosion...Nigel tells me the new Limbach
alloy valves are anecdotally good.  Running stellite seats with standard
valves also is much better than standard seats. Don't be tempted to use
hard valves with hard stellite seats however as the combination has been
reported to fail in some VW motors. 
                Rob
                
                
                 
                PO Box 129,
                Lawson, NSW, 2783.
                phone 02 47592307
                mobile 0429 493828
                
                
                
                






















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                ----- Original Message ----
                From: Sean Jorgensen-Day
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                To: Nigel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; DOGS
<[email protected]>
                Sent: Wednesday, 9 July, 2008 10:42:35 AM
                Subject: [DOG mailing list] RE: Fw: GUD
                
                
                Nige,
                    What options are there to get the thing running
richer?
                
                    Sean
                
                -----Original Message-----
                From: Nigel Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                Sent: Wednesday, 9 July 2008 10:03 AM
                To: DOGS
                Cc: Sean Jorgensen-Day; Sean Jorgensen; Russell White;
Rob Hanbury;
                Redmond Quinn; Michael Shirley; Kevin Lewis; Keith
Gateley; John Hudson;
                Harry Bache; graham marsh; Gavin Wrigley; Damien
O'Reilly; Colin Turner;
                Catherine Conway; Baylee Roberts
                Subject: Fw: Fw: GUD
                
                G'day Dogs and others.
                I have added other Limbach users to this mail for their
interest.
                The attached images are from a L2000 as fitted to the
Grob109 which is
                essentially the same base engine as used in the Dimona.
                The aircraft had  some suspicious damage to the Prop
which required a
                Bulk Strip.
                The Crank was cracked and a new shortblock engine has
been ordered.
                When we stripped the engine I did not like the look of
the Valve seats
                so sent these images to the factory for comment which is
below.
                Also one valve was noted to be "sticking" when turning
the engine over
                during disassembly.
                
                Whenever Peter says something needs to be "controlled"
he means
                "Checked".
                I rang to clarify a few points.
                By "Valve Play" he is referring to Tappet Clearance not
Valve Stem
                clearance.
                By poor carburetion he means "Poor as apposed to Rich"
thus he means
                "Lean Mixture".
                He has suggested that the corrosion  has come from the
use of Avgas.
                He stated that in Europe they normally have trouble with
corrosion on
                engines using Avgas and seldom found on engines running
on Unleaded.
                In the past Peter has said they prefer the engine be run
on Unleaded
                instead of Avgas.
                Avgas 100LL of course is still acceptable.
                This is of course 98oct unleaded so Premium Unleaded.
This must be the
                98oct variety and not the 95oct.
                I use BP Ultimate.
                Of course I have a problem looming. The eastern states
are now
                requiring 10% Alcohol content in car fuel and expect
that will spread
                through all states. I understand the US is in the same
position and much
                of Europe.
                The Limbach Engine is rated for 5% Alcohol and the last
time I discussed
                this with Peter (a while ago now) he said they would be
changing it to
                10% or higher. Brazil's fuel spec for instance is much
higher being over
                20%.
                
                While my fuel hoses are rated for Alcohol I still have
the FRP fuel tank
                which I believe is not. So changing to the Alloy tank is
pending for me.
                
                That leaves the Fuel Cock and Electric Fuel Pump left in
the circuit to
                worry about. The seals I put in the Fuel Cock are OK
with Alcohol but
                will have to check up on the Pump.
                Something for you all to ponder if running unleaded like
myself.
                
                Below is the correspondence as mentioned.
                Cheers.
                Nige.
                
                
                
                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "Peter Salomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                To: "Nigel Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:30 PM
                Subject: Re: Fw: GUD
                
                
                > Nigel Baker schrieb:
                >> G'Day Peter.
                >> Attached photo's of the Cylinder heads off the engine
that had the
                Shock 
                >> Load.
                >> Can you give me an opinion on the corosion to the
Valve Seats.
                >> This aircraft was being flown every month but the
Airfeild is near
                the 
                >> Ocean. The climate here though is not humid.
                >> There is also a grey/white powder over the surfaces
of the intake
                ports 
                >> and cobustion chamber.
                >> Any ideas of why it is this bad. It is 48 hours since
overhaul.
                >> Regs.
                >> Nigel.
                >>
                
                > Hi Nigel,
                >
                > blimey, what type of fuel fly your client?
                > After your pictures can I find some problems with the
heads.
                > 1.) I think the left head on your picture is from the
right engine
                site.
                > I can see that the exhaust valve from cylinder no 2
have burn tracks.
                > No valve play!
                > Slight leaky between cylinder and head.
                > Overheating failing could be poor carburation!
                > The corrosion on the seats could come from using
AVGAS!
                > The beading in the ports show me very high exhaust
temperature!
                > On cylinder one the intake valve have also burn tracks
outside.
                > Please control this valve. No valve play could be the
reason.
                >
                > A new (complete) engine will help.  ;-)
                >
                > Best regards and nice weekend.
                >
                > Peter
                >
                > 
                
        
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