Hi,

Looks like this time the problem was with the carbs. I had them thoroughly
cleaned and the motor came to life.

Regards
Jarek



On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 10:16, Ian Mc Phee <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ian and Jarek
>
>  I have done services around 300hrs then 600ht (I have dual ignition) then
> 900hrs but I have always had an issue hard to start.
>
> This last one I chose AIES at Moorabbin  (been to two other place before)
> and each time starting was difficult.  I mentioned to guyy at AIES  and he
> rang and said I think I found your trouble.  It is impulse but on two
> previous services I do not think the guys really looked at impulse. They
> did points and capicator and if needed the small wheel and seal (mor a
> thing for falke as impulse is oiled by engine)
>
> I now oil the mag impulse each oil change (usually 35 to 40hrs.
>
> The reason I went to AIES was a friend a LAME recommended him as he is
> specialist. Some of the other workshops just do magneto s as a sideline to
> general service. I could mention another Lame organisation that buggered up
> a slick in a Pawnee and eventually gears failed and showed metal.
>
> Thus I say find a good expert to do your magneto.
>
> For those earlier models with the master switch (bone) forward of firewall
> they can be mounted behind firewall on standouts. The rod gets shortened
> and thus more room behind firewall. A good mod if you have engine out as
> makes life easier.
>
> I hear from a friend with L2000 in a g109 new engine and has long reach
> plugs so finally Limbach have realised these heads are much better.
>
> Ian McPhee
> 0428847642
> Box 657 Byron Bay NSW 2481 Australia
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Oct. 2019, 20:59 Jarek Steliga, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ian,
>>
>> Thank you so much for the very exhaustive reply. Even I am able to grasp
>> the logic behind your suggestion no 2. The stuck impulse coupling would
>> keep retarding/delaying the ignition from the required minus 30 all the way
>> to zero obviously fouling the higher revs. I am going to look into this
>> immediately.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Jarek
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 23:47, Ian Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jarek,
>>>
>>> I hope to be of some help to you based in issues I have had in the past
>>> with Limbach 2L engines.
>>>
>>> They are a great little engine and if looked after will perform well for
>>> years. I currently “look after”  ie the engineer for 3 aircraft wit hL200’s
>>> and one with an L2400.
>>>
>>>    1. Here in New Zealand we need to remove the Magneto every 2 years
>>>    or 250hrs … which ever comes first and any issues with the magneto are
>>>    found  (usually)  However sometimes not the case.  The L2000 on our 
>>> Dimona
>>>    was ex Thai air force and the engine was not used for 20 or so years.  It
>>>    did around 150 hrs of trouble free running then without warning, the
>>>    condenser in the Magneto broke down.  Fortunately just after take off so 
>>> a
>>>    return landing was possible. Interestingly, it broke down less than 1 
>>> hr’s
>>>    running AFTER a bench check.  … so a problem COULD be a faulty condenser 
>>> …
>>>    though if that was the case the engine wouldn’t idle either.
>>>    2. What is possible (and has happened to me)  is an issue with the
>>>    impulse spring …    The impulse used is a standard GA one.  Usually they
>>>    are internal of the engine (ie Lycoming etc) hence well oiled.  The 
>>> Limbach
>>>    one is external and hence needs external  lubrication. There is a little
>>>    oil pot on top of the rear case to do that but is really quite hit and
>>>    miss.   We had a problem (which fits to your situation) where the spring
>>>    was quite “dry” and would not release. … ie “bound up”  Hence the engine
>>>    would run OK at low RPM’s but no good at high.   The fix was to take the
>>>    magneto out (again) dismantle the impulse, give it a good clean and
>>>    lubrication and reassemble .. then back on the Aircraft.  The problem was
>>>    solved.
>>>
>>> Just a point re advance and retard …  Not a lot of point in that
>>> automatically adjusting with an engine that runs at a fairly constant RPM …
>>> the KISS principal here.
>>>
>>> However the old De Havilland Gypsy engine had a mechanical system which
>>> moved the magneto physically when the throttle was closed … for a better
>>> idle.  A friend of mine put an adjusting ignition(ie replaced one magneto)
>>>  system on his 150hl lycoming    The idle was significantly smoother.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So I think your problem is no 2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Ian Williams
>>>
>>> Drury
>>>
>>> Auckland
>>>
>>> New Zealand
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ZK-GCB (Dimona)
>>>
>>> ZK-GOC (Grob 109 with a 2400 Limbach)
>>>
>>> ZK-GNW  (Grob 109  2000 Limbach
>>>
>>> Working on another Dimona … to be ZK-GCD    (ex VH-GNW)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected] *On Behalf Of *Jarek Steliga
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 14 October 2019 8:40 p.m.
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [DOG mailing list] ignition advancement not affected by
>>> the RPMs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ric, Ian,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you very much. The idea of there being no advance seems bizarre
>>> for someone having only to do with 'terrestrial' engines :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 08:07, Ric Sutton <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi jarek
>>>
>>> Yep you are correct, there is no advance. It stays the same throughout
>>> the rev range.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Jarek Steliga
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 13 October 2019 5:17 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* [DOG mailing list] ignition advancement not affected by the
>>> RPMs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can someone please confirm that once my L2000 starts with a 43 series
>>> Slick magneto mounted, the ignition advancement will stay the same (30%)
>>> throughout the whole RPMs range? In other words as I understand in this
>>> system there is no spark advance mechanism installed apart from the impulse
>>> coupling which only affects (delays/retards) the spark timing up until 400
>>> RPMs (i.e. well before the engine kicks in).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you in anticipation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jarek
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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