Hello, please let me respond to each post separately.

Rob,

While rough running I have never experienced any detonations, just a
serious drop in RPM and generally things seem to go out of whack.


Ian Mc Phee,

I believe mine are the old aviation leads (plugs were recently replaced). I
did suspect they might have been broken so I borrowed a similar set from a
friend who has FALKE. That other set did not seem to make any difference so
I put mine back on. I am going to run the engine in the dark as you suggest
though.

The TUMA tap is no longer there. But I realize that it is high time for me
to check up the fuel flow since I have still neglected this measurement and
am still not even sure if that electric pump does or doesn't work.




Ian Williams,

A new throttle shaft is on its way to me. Since I am unable to lay my hands
on any spare carbs the rebushing may become the only option. Your comment
gave me some new hope. I am definitely going to share the results once
things get done. Why should the red sillicon be kept 100 miles away from
the fuel system?


I hank you all very much.


Best regards
Jarek







On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 at 00:45, Rob Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:

> My experience with worn throttle shafts is that they cause an overall
> leaning of the mixture but not sudden changes to rpm with the throttle
> position constant.
> What you are hearing can be a good indicator of what is going wrong. What
> does it sound like when the RPM drops?
> Rob
>
> Rob Thompson
> 0429 493 828
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 10:01 AM Ian Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jarek,
>>
>> Just may be able to help you there, as I have had a similar issue
>>
>> I have just completed a 500 hr inspection of our Dimona. It is one of the
>> early ones … (one of 10 bought by the Thai Air Force in the early 80’s)
>>
>> The engine was reconditioned in Germany about a year prior to all 10
>> being sold by the RTAF.  However the aircraft did not fly again with them
>> prior to being sold.
>>
>> The engine was half installed … ie refitted but not completed.
>>
>> One carb was new while the other had been used.
>>
>> The aircraft has done around 450 Hrs now in New Zealand.  I have had a
>> couple of engine problems … one where the magneto condenser became very
>> leaky .. happened just after take off and the engine didn’t like it at all.
>> The other was a fuel problem which as it turned out was self inflicted
>> (note .. keep red silicon 100 miles away from any fuel system)
>>
>>
>>
>> So back to the present.  Because of some corrosion around the engine and
>> baffles, during the 500 hr inspection I took the engine out and corrosion
>> protected everything.   Then engine back in.
>>
>> The first test flight went well with no apparent problems … However the
>> second and subsequent flights … not so.
>>
>> What was happening was at around 500 to 800 or so feet after T.O. the
>> engine would loose about 400RPM for about a second, then pick up again.
>> Later it would do the same randomly even in coarse pitch but a bit longer.
>>
>> I thought it was a fuel problem so took out the tank, flushed all the
>> lines and checked the fuel flow   (took off the fitting to the RHS carb and
>> ran the electric pump for 30 secs)  got 28 to 30 L/hr which I thought was
>> OK.  I have an MGL fuel flow sensor which has a small orifice so gave that
>> a good clean as well.
>>
>> After putting everything  back, another test flight … still the same
>> Bugger.
>>
>> I did think it could be an plug lead problem but if a plug stops firing
>> you sure do know about it so had to rule that out.
>>
>> So I took both Carbs to a bloke about 15Km from where we are.  He is an
>> EX Air Force engineer specialising in fuel systems.  He took a look at the
>> carbs and said that the throttle shaft of one carb … he wouldn’t allow that
>> on a car. … the shaft was worn but didnt seem excessively so to my limited
>> experience.
>>
>> Apparently there is available a kit to repair these.  However also the
>> bearing surfaces (just part of the carb body really) can be replaced with
>> Teflon bearings he said … so basically quite repairable.
>>
>> It seems that even a slight leak around the throttle shaft can upset the
>> operation of the plunger with the needle attached … which is quite
>> surprising.
>>
>> I just happened to have a couple of “new” carbs in stock so installed
>> them after checking the diaphrams condition.   Did a test flight yesterday
>> and all was good.  I did lean the mixture a little as the CHT’s were quite
>> low  (100 to 120 degrees C).  Of interest, the engine started a lot easier
>> and in the past had a tendency to stop on roll out after landing (even with
>> the idle RPM set to around 900 RPM) … but no issue now.
>>
>> So finally … yes, rebush the throttle shaft / bearings.      Any leakage
>> around them seems to have a significant effect on the operation of the CD
>> control.
>>
>> Hope that helps
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Ian Williams
>>
>> New Zealand
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] *On Behalf Of *Jarek Steliga
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 30 November 2019 10:30 a.m.
>> *To:* Laurie Hoffman via dog <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [DOG mailing list] Stromberg 150 CD3 air leak around the
>> throttle axle
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am still struggling with my Limbach rough run at RPMs around 3000.
>> Since my max static RMPs are ca 2700 the problem only becomes apparent on
>> take off (I actually had to abort one take off while being already ca 100 m
>> above the ground - a rather hair raising experience).
>>
>>
>>
>> After having replaced a perforated metering needle piston diaphragm with
>> a new one I am back to square one in my detective work of what gives.
>>
>>
>>
>> The next suspect I am zeroing in on is a badly worn out brass throttle
>> axle combined with the visibly enlarged hole in the carby body this axle
>> protrudes through. Can the air passing through this opening affect the
>> formation of underpressure inside the carby to the extent of producing
>> effects above described?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any comment will be greatly appreciated as always
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jarek
>>
>>
>>
>>
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