Hi Jarek,

Just may be able to help you there, as I have had a similar issue

I have just completed a 500 hr inspection of our Dimona. It is one of the early 
ones … (one of 10 bought by the Thai Air Force in the early 80’s)

The engine was reconditioned in Germany about a year prior to all 10 being sold 
by the RTAF.  However the aircraft did not fly again with them prior to being 
sold.

The engine was half installed … ie refitted but not completed.

One carb was new while the other had been used.

The aircraft has done around 450 Hrs now in New Zealand.  I have had a couple 
of engine problems … one where the magneto condenser became very leaky .. 
happened just after take off and the engine didn’t like it at all. The other 
was a fuel problem which as it turned out was self inflicted    (note .. keep 
red silicon 100 miles away from any fuel system) 

 

So back to the present.  Because of some corrosion around the engine and 
baffles, during the 500 hr inspection I took the engine out and corrosion 
protected everything.   Then engine back in.

The first test flight went well with no apparent problems … However the second 
and subsequent flights … not so.

What was happening was at around 500 to 800 or so feet after T.O. the engine 
would loose about 400RPM for about a second, then pick up again.  Later it 
would do the same randomly even in coarse pitch but a bit longer.

I thought it was a fuel problem so took out the tank, flushed all the lines and 
checked the fuel flow   (took off the fitting to the RHS carb and ran the 
electric pump for 30 secs)  got 28 to 30 L/hr which I thought was OK.  I have 
an MGL fuel flow sensor which has a small orifice so gave that a good clean as 
well.

After putting everything  back, another test flight … still the same   Bugger.

I did think it could be an plug lead problem but if a plug stops firing you 
sure do know about it so had to rule that out.

So I took both Carbs to a bloke about 15Km from where we are.  He is an EX Air 
Force engineer specialising in fuel systems.  He took a look at the carbs and 
said that the throttle shaft of one carb … he wouldn’t allow that on a car. … 
the shaft was worn but didnt seem excessively so to my limited experience.

Apparently there is available a kit to repair these.  However also the bearing 
surfaces (just part of the carb body really) can be replaced with Teflon 
bearings he said … so basically quite repairable.

It seems that even a slight leak around the throttle shaft can upset the 
operation of the plunger with the needle attached … which is quite surprising.

I just happened to have a couple of “new” carbs in stock so installed them 
after checking the diaphrams condition.   Did a test flight yesterday and all 
was good.  I did lean the mixture a little as the CHT’s were quite low  (100 to 
120 degrees C).  Of interest, the engine started a lot easier and in the past 
had a tendency to stop on roll out after landing (even with the idle RPM set to 
around 900 RPM) … but no issue now.

So finally … yes, rebush the throttle shaft / bearings.      Any leakage around 
them seems to have a significant effect on the operation of the CD control.

Hope that helps

 

Best regards

Ian Williams

New Zealand

 

 

 

From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Jarek Steliga
Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2019 10:30 a.m.
To: Laurie Hoffman via dog <[email protected]>
Subject: [DOG mailing list] Stromberg 150 CD3 air leak around the throttle axle

 

 

 

Hello,

 

I am still struggling with my Limbach rough run at RPMs around 3000. Since my 
max static RMPs are ca 2700 the problem only becomes apparent on take off (I 
actually had to abort one take off while being already ca 100 m above the 
ground - a rather hair raising experience).

 

After having replaced a perforated metering needle piston diaphragm with a new 
one I am back to square one in my detective work of what gives. 

 

The next suspect I am zeroing in on is a badly worn out brass throttle axle 
combined with the visibly enlarged hole in the carby body this axle protrudes 
through. Can the air passing through this opening affect the formation of 
underpressure inside the carby to the extent of producing effects above 
described?

 

Any comment will be greatly appreciated as always

 

Regards

Jarek

 

 

 

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