I am only thinking H36 Dimonas..... It has now been 20 years since I worked
on a Grob!
regards
Rob

Rob Thompson
0429 493 828



On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 3:59 PM Ian Williams <[email protected]> wrote:

> The prob with the Stemme L2400 Rob was that the oil temp valve and spin on
> filter were in the way of using the original Grob pitch change system
> So had to be on the other side (same as the Dimona )
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 16/03/2021, at 5:09 PM, Rob Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> When we installed a L2400 as a replacement for a L2000, it was a direct
> swap... just altering the length of the pitch change cable.
>
> If you want to use a L2000 pitch change mechanism on a L2400.... They are
> just very slightly different and you may find that the prop doesn't feather
> completely and may windmill a little bit.
> regards
> Rob
>
> Rob Thompson
> 0429 493 828
> (Please note that my new email address is [email protected])
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 10:54 AM Michael Stockhill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Ian.
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 4:43 PM Ian Mc Phee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> Some years ago we fitted a Sauer S2500 to our dimona and were able to
>>> use the gear change metalwork.  That engine was 15mm longer so rear engine
>>> mount was shortened but the master (the bone) was moved to the cockpit of
>>> firewall and mounted on standouts and the shaft was shortened. Personally I
>>> wod do this simple mod to all h36 as gives more room at rear of slick 4330.
>>>
>>> We already had the BT Blades (rount tip) and outr STC required that (not
>>> the T with point tip)
>>>
>>> The electric prop sure can use power and as battery gets low it slowly
>>> goes coarser.  In extreme case it will no longer climb.  Thus with the
>>> hk36R you must keep an eye on voltage and think manual suggest TURN OFF
>>> ELECTRICS to save power.
>>>
>>> Back to the 2500 Sauer I was never happy with the cruise setting.
>>> Recently I got a sliver taken off the adjust nut which brought the two
>>> settings closer together.  I am extremely happy with the results, not only
>>> can I cruise at 90 kts to 95kts (even 100kts).  The bonus is IT USES LESS
>>> FUEL.  The throttle is back 8mm than before.  In cruise it is going along
>>> at 2800rpm which is close to spot on to max torque.   I think previously
>>> the engine was labouring going up the hill.  The higher revs are fre revs.
>>> The engine loves it.
>>>
>>> Another on props is club has a falke which had L1700 but now fitted a
>>> L2000 but have retained the original 75cm pitch (150 dia) which Scheibe
>>> approve but most these days have 90cm.pitch.  It climbs like a home sick
>>> angel at 3000revs
>>>
>>> I have not answered your question
>>>
>>> Ian McPhee
>>> +61 428847642
>>> Box 657 Byron Bay NSW 2481 Australia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 16 Mar. 2021, 07:44 Michael Stockhill, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ian,
>>>>
>>>> That would be great if you sent some snaps to Mike Hoffman, and copy me
>>>> too!
>>>>
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> You guys are great.
>>>>
>>>> M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 1:23 PM Ian Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gidday Michael,
>>>>> I may be of some help there.  A few years ago I installed a Limbach
>>>>> L2400 from a deceased Stemme S10 into an early Grob 109A and used the
>>>>> original Hoffman prop. It was a mission as we also applied for a 1 off
>>>>> STC.  Which was eventually approved by the NZ CAA.
>>>>> However at the time I was unaware that the approved prop for that
>>>>> combination was an MT.
>>>>> So I designed a system based on the Dimona H36 pitch change.
>>>>> So it the dude wants some pictures of the system I can send a few
>>>>> The Grob has since done about 300 hrs and no
>>>>> Problem
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards from New Zealand
>>>>>  Ian Williams
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> > On 16/03/2021, at 8:58 AM, Michael Stockhill <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I caught up with the Taifun group when researching resurrection of a
>>>>> Taifun here in the states.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > One Taifun owner makes many 6-8 hour wave flights. He said he
>>>>> removed his MT propeller which requires electric power for unfeathering
>>>>> because his batteries run too low. He installed a Hoffman on his L2400, 
>>>>> but
>>>>> he does not have a pitch change mechanism. I expect to ask him if he then
>>>>> flies with the engine windmilling, and has flat pitch for all flight. I
>>>>> don't yet know the model number of his prop.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Questions for the group:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Are the pitch change lever and components the same on the L2400 as
>>>>> on the L2000?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Does anyone have a set of those components for either series engine?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I am 1000 miles from my parts books. Are these parts Limbach or
>>>>> Diamond/Hoffman?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks for your usual insights.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Michael Stockhill
>>>>> > Polson, MT
>>>>>
>>>>>
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