G'day Blokes,
This posting relates to regulations in Australia but there may be some sort
of equivalent regulations in other countries.

Below is the section on parts replacement from the Australian CASR
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2011C00973/Html/Volume_1#_Toc311721051

Interesting that it says a spare part only requires  *"information that
allows the part to be traced to its manufacturer"*

This says to me that you don't have to purchase a part from Limbach.... you
can go direct to the manufacturer. Limbach does not manufacture much stuff.

42.445    Fitting standard parts

         (1)   An individual who is carrying out maintenance on an aircraft
or aeronautical product must not fit a standard part to the aircraft or
aeronautical product unless the fitting of the part is permitted under:

                (a)    regulation 42.450; or  *(Rob's note - 42.450 relates
to parts which have been previously removed from the aircraft)*

               (b)    subregulation (2).

         (2)   For paragraph (1) (b), the standard part may be fitted if:

                (a)    the standard part is serviceable; and

               (b)    the standard part is accompanied by:

                          (i)    information that identifies the
specification with which the part complies; and

                         (ii)    information that allows the part to be
traced to its manufacturer; and

                (c)    the standard part is accompanied by evidence that
the standard part complies with the specification; and

               (d)    the standard part is eligible to be fitted to the
aircraft or the aeronautical product; and

                (e)    if the manufacturer of the standard part has
specified a storage life for the part — the storage life for the part has
not expired.
regards
Rob

Rob Thompson
0429 493 828



On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 2:30 PM Ian Mc Phee <[email protected]> wrote:

> My understanding if you have a prop stroke then the bulk strip can be done
> by a LAME organisation (that is qualified) or aviation engine rebuilder.
> There are still some Aviation engine re builders around that are good on VWs
>
> A friend 2 or 3 years ago convinced himself the engine had an issue (about
> 800hrs tt) and was pulled down by some VW person in Victoria. I explained
> he had to go to a CASA engine re builder which he did then.  Platinum 300
> in Victoria found no issues but chose to fit new rings and bearings like a
> rebuild (aircraft was bought from an estate so sat around for 6 years) .
> They had to have on file ALL manuals and chose to get the heads OH by the
> old guy here who did lots of aero enterprises machine work.
>
> The reason for the rebuild was faulty mechanical fuel pump!
>
> We in Australia now can go  hours "on condition" in most aircraft
> (excluding charter but includes training).  Thus as I see it he just keeps
> flying well beyond the 1000hrs subject to oil consumption etc.
>
> During last 200hrs I get oil analysis (I now use ALS), wash out oil filter
> core in blue icecream container and examine with head lens.  I place a
> magnet on outside of oil filter and always fit a digital CHT that monitors
> all four cylinders.
>
> If compression is good and oil temps and pressures then keep flying in
> AUSTRALIA.
>
> GFA must mirror CASA requirements I believe.
>
> Personally I am over chasing up genuine parts except where parts are
> critical.
>
> Ian McPhee
> 0428847642
> Box 657 Byron Bay NSW 2481
>
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2021, 11:17 Rob Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tom!
>>
>> A limbach is a very expensive rebranded VW motor. Example... I recently
>> dismantled a L2400 which is based on the Type 25 VW. The main and cam
>> bearings were just "off the shelf" Kolbenschmidt. Limbach is charging you
>> about 300 euros extra to change the boxes they come in.
>>
>> If you can get your aircraft registered as an experimental aircraft, this
>> is the place to buy Aero VW engine parts at reasonable prices....
>> https://www.greatplainsas.com/
>>
>> Profit driven....yes certainly but I also think there are mounting
>> liability and insurance issues which has everyone running scared. Including
>> me!
>>
>> regards
>> Rob
>>
>> Rob Thompson
>> 0429 493 828
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:55 AM Tom Preisser <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Afterthought... I consider you Rob, given your lengthy experience and
>>> depth of thought, to be a grandmaster of these motors. You too Ian.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 07:51 Tom Preisser <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not yet... They offered a one week  "maintenance" course   previously
>>>> that, if I understood correctly, that then qualified one to rebuild. Top
>>>> end only ? I wonder if this is merely a profit based decision, rather than
>>>> a technical issue. What would dear Mr Porsche feel, praytell ? I am afraid,
>>>> however, that they have us by the shorties as far as Limbach manufactured
>>>> parts are concerned. Case halves are probably the biggest item I can think
>>>> of.
>>>> I wonder what their authorized service stations are capable of ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 00:02 Ian Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yep
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian W
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* [email protected] *On Behalf Of *Rob Thompson
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 19 March 2021 7:51 p.m.
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* [DOG mailing list] Limbach engine rebuilds
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> G'day Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently had the Limbach factory questioning about me rebuilding
>>>>> their motors.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Australian qualifications to rebuild 4 stroke motors in motor
>>>>> gliders and recreational aircraft but Limbach seem to be saying that any 
>>>>> of
>>>>> their motors requiring a bottom end rebuild need to be shipped back to the
>>>>> factory (at great expense).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am suspicious that they may start refusing to sell parts.
>>>>> Unfortunately we don't have Nigel  available to sort out these issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently, in Australia we also have many legal liability difficulties
>>>>> for anyone working on certified aircraft. It really is all getting too 
>>>>> hard
>>>>> for anyone like me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else had issues like this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob Thompson
>>>>>
>>>>> 0429 493 828
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>

Reply via email to