If my comment a couple minutes ago looks like a repost, an earlier post
today said that it didn't go through.


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On Wed, May 17, 2023, 8:53 PM Michael Stockhill <sto...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I had difficulty with the spoilers about 18 years ago. My recollection is
> that I identified the interference points and  dressed the trailing edge of
> the spoilers with a file after trying some paraffin.They were binding and
> it took a hard yank to pop them open. Both are apparently warped or
> distorted. The trailing edge of both is now flush with the wing skin
> outboard and a few mm below grade at the inboard ends.  I wonder if air
> loads--positive flex or deflection of the wings in flight--might contribute
> to the binding.
>
>
> Michael Stockhill
> Polson, MT
>
> On Wed, May 17, 2023, 8:25 PM Kristin Nowell <kristinnow...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> thanks ian, that is quite generous. I'll keep trying, let you know where
>> I end up.
>> I hear you Rob, and because you shared the fear. I check airbrake
>> function as per your instructions after every assembly, and do a slightly
>> less complete check ( Kristin at controls, I hold brake shut, call and
>> respond. Kristin then pulls full brake, I feel around the perimeter, then
>> grab the brake and hold tight while Kristin moves lever and calls
>> "resistance". I release, she closes, and I verify full closure) before each
>> flight.
>> I went to fuel up one frosty morning and the airbrakes had frozen shut -
>> very disturbing sensation to pull the handle and get no movement at all !!!
>> Any opinion Nigel ? Thickness of airbrake ? Adjust turnbuckle for more
>> closure tension on cable ? If I recall correctly, the adjustment turnbuckle
>> is right there behind the keel inspection panel at the copilot left hip.
>> Any specs for the airbrake/box closure spring ?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 6:17 PM Rob Thompson <amessageto...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *Question:* When you push the raised section down, does it go correctly
>>> into position? I once fixed a similar problem but it was caused by an
>>> improper fit underneath the spoiler stopping it going all the way down.
>>>
>>> *WARNING!!! *The spoilers can jam *VERY* easily after an adjustment and
>>> you will only find out about it when the air is flowing over them, most
>>> likely when you are on finals which happened to me and I got some
>>> sideslipping practice.
>>> To test them, get one, preferably two people to spread their fingertips
>>> along the top of each spoiler and use friction to push the spoiler
>>> backwards and lightly downwards. Effectively simulating the airflow. If the
>>> fit is incorrect they will jam! The reason for this is that in the very
>>> first bit of normal movement of the spoiler is backwards not just upwards.
>>> It is a good idea to check this at least at every annual inspection.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> Rob Thompson
>>> 0429 493 828
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 3:33 AM Tom Preisser <t...@ecoflight.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a slightly warped airbrake which sits properly throughout 85% of
>>>> its span, but then proud of the surface for the outboard 15%.
>>>> Only five mm high at the very end, but it bothers me. Three fixes come
>>>> to mind -
>>>> I could grind it thinner, bringing it down to the surface of the wing.
>>>> I could mount another closure spring at that end. Even a little closure
>>>> force is sufficient.
>>>> I could weight it into form as it sits in the hot sun this summer,
>>>> maybe even paint a black topcoat, and see what it gets (?).
>>>>
>>>> Two questions;
>>>> Does anyone have a better idea ?
>>>> Has anyone replaced their closure springs ? I did on both wings, and it
>>>> isn't perfect - the common springs from the hardware store are close to
>>>> yield when airbrake is fully open, and don't provide much closure force
>>>> when airbrake is shut, i.e. if I flip a wing upper surface down the
>>>> airbrake will hang open just a little. Perhaps
>>>> the much more powerful airbrake closure spring isn't adjusted properly
>>>> to compensate for wear at the junction of the ball and pin drive on the
>>>> wings and the torque drive tube slots in the airbrake drive tube in the
>>>> wing root.
>>>> Any and all thoughts would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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