Good work Ian.... Great explanation!
regards
Rob

Rob Thompson
0429 493 828



On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 3:24 PM Ian WIlliams <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi TMG team,
>
> Rob I hope u don’t mind me responding as well. Here in NZ we have to have
> the mag bench checked every 2 years and I look after 2 coming up 3 Dimona’s
> and 2 Grob 109’s so do this job with monotonous regularity.
>
> My procedure is as follows.
>
>    - Disconnect battery
>    - Remove the right hand Carb (from the front) and disconnect the choke
>    and throttle rods.
>    - Disconnect and remove the starter and remove spark plugs
>    - Turn the engine so cyl *1  (The front right hand side one) is top
>    dead centre on its compression stroke (Finger over the spark plug hole)
>    - Note the little mark on the prop flange … it is set to 25 degrees so
>    wont line up with the case centre seam at TDC .. it is used for retiming
>    the mag
>    - Use a long allan key and undo the 2 clamps attaching the  Mag … the
>    Alternator bracket and probably the throttle bracket are also attached so
>    note how they are connected.  I keep the bottom alternator bolt tight so it
>    doesn’t move slackening off the belt.
>    - Pull out the mag and remove the rear cap with the 4 HT leads   (3
>    screws)
>    - Get the Mag serviced
>
> Back on
>
>    - The Dimona Mag is Right hand.   So get a pin (an unused pop rivet
>    works well)   Look at the back of the mag and u will see 2 holes. Use the
>    one marked RH   Put the pop rivet into it and slowly turn the input until
>    the rivet shaft slips right in.  The mag is direct drive but has a 2:1
>    reduction inside and the pin / hole is in the smaller gear so u may have to
>    turn it twice to make the pin go fully in.
>    - Now the tricky bit.  I use a length of masking tape crossed over to
>    secure the impulse in a fixed position but in such a way that once the flex
>    coupling is almost in place the masking tape can be pulled out. THEN
>    REMOVE THE POP RIVET    then reinstall the rear cap and the 3 screws
>    .. note there is only one way it can go on.  Taking care not to dislodge
>    the masking tape.
>    - Now Double check Cyl*1 is at TDC.  Offer up the mag and the gasket
>    as Rob has described.  Be real careful here.  You can see the coupling
>    through the Alternator belt slot. With a torch. Once it looks as if it will
>    slip in OK, remove the masking tape and reinstall the 2 mounting clamps but
>    don’t tighten just yet.
>    - Make up a small “buzzer”.  I use a real cheap electric ceramic
>    buzzer (about the size of your finger nail and a 1.5 volt AA battery)
>    Write it up and use 2 flying leads with clips at the end.   Check that when
>    you join the clips together the buzzer makes a noise. Connect one clip to
>    the “P” lead on the mag and the other to ground Now rotate the prop around
>    the TDC point. You should hear a change of tone on the buzzer when the Mag
>    points change state.  It is not much of a tone change but is clearly heard
>    - Now identify the mark on the prop flange and rotate the prop around
>    it listening for the change of buzzer tone.  Adjust the mag position so
>    when rotating the prop in reverse (ie taking up any slack in the drive) the
>    change of tone happens exactly when the flange mark is lined up with the
>    split in the case halves.
>    - Once you are happy tighten the 2 mag retaining clamp / bolts
>    - Then slowly rotate the prop through all compressions and note the
>    spark should correspond with that cylinder on its compression stroke   The
>    firing order is 1 3 2 4   ie 2 bangs on one side and 2 on the other.
>    - Because of the impulse of course the firing spark is quite retarded
>    when turning the prop manually  and is roughly at TDC.   This is a good way
>    of confirming u have it correct.
>    - Then put the leads back on the mag, reinstall the starter and Carb.
>    And of course the plugs and battery
>    - All should then make the usual noise .
>
> I hope this is of some help
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> Ian Williams
>
> ZK-GCB
>
>
>
>
>
> PS…   Is anybody else having big issues with Hoffmann propellors ??
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On
> Behalf Of *Rob Thompson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 30, 2023 9:38 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [DOG mailing list] Magneto removal.
>
>
>
> 1 Line up the engine at the timing mark firing on #1 cylinder.
>
>
>
> 2 Remove the engine control rods and starter motor so you have room to get
> the magneto out and back in again.
>
>
>
> 3 Take the cap and harness off using a right angle screw driver. I
> replaced the slot head screws with Alan screws to make the job easier to
> refit the cap.
>
>
>
> 3 Loosen the magneto bolts with a long Alan key. I welded a long Alan key
> to a 1/4 inch socket and then used a small ratchet spanner in behind the
> magneto.
>
>
>
> 5 Follow the magneto install instructions in the manual. *It is important
> to get the gasket measurement right or the magneto may FAIL.* You can do
> a trial fit with plasticine or Blu Tac which compresses against the
> flywheel and then measure that you have the right clearance.
>
>
>
> regards
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> Rob Thompson
>
> 0429 493 828
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 6:22 AM Tomasz Dzikuć <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Dear Dimona users.
>
>
>
> The date of inspection of our  magneto is approaching.
>
>
>
> The information I found on this list shows that the removal of the magneto
> can be done without disassembling the entire engine.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, we don't know how to do that.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any short instructions on how to do this or just can
> write some tips here.
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance and best regards from Poland.
>
>
>
> Tomasz Dzikuc
>
>
>
> TMG Team
>
> AZL Zielona Gora
>
>

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