I recommend printing this out link with the aircraft's papetwork

https://www.kitplanes.com/magneto-timing/

Ian s is very good

I recently saw aero VW (actually RAAus) with backup electronic ignition the
little tit on top of car plug unscrewed itself and lead was hanging down.
This guy does a lot of  flying. So do up tit real tight.

Ian McPhee
0428847642

On Tue, 30 May 2023, 3:57 pm Rob Thompson, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Good work Ian.... Great explanation!
> regards
> Rob
>
> Rob Thompson
> 0429 493 828
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 3:24 PM Ian WIlliams <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi TMG team,
>>
>> Rob I hope u don’t mind me responding as well. Here in NZ we have to have
>> the mag bench checked every 2 years and I look after 2 coming up 3 Dimona’s
>> and 2 Grob 109’s so do this job with monotonous regularity.
>>
>> My procedure is as follows.
>>
>>    - Disconnect battery
>>    - Remove the right hand Carb (from the front) and disconnect the
>>    choke and throttle rods.
>>    - Disconnect and remove the starter and remove spark plugs
>>    - Turn the engine so cyl *1  (The front right hand side one) is top
>>    dead centre on its compression stroke (Finger over the spark plug hole)
>>    - Note the little mark on the prop flange … it is set to 25 degrees
>>    so wont line up with the case centre seam at TDC .. it is used for 
>> retiming
>>    the mag
>>    - Use a long allan key and undo the 2 clamps attaching the  Mag … the
>>    Alternator bracket and probably the throttle bracket are also attached so
>>    note how they are connected.  I keep the bottom alternator bolt tight so 
>> it
>>    doesn’t move slackening off the belt.
>>    - Pull out the mag and remove the rear cap with the 4 HT leads   (3
>>    screws)
>>    - Get the Mag serviced
>>
>> Back on
>>
>>    - The Dimona Mag is Right hand.   So get a pin (an unused pop rivet
>>    works well)   Look at the back of the mag and u will see 2 holes. Use the
>>    one marked RH   Put the pop rivet into it and slowly turn the input until
>>    the rivet shaft slips right in.  The mag is direct drive but has a 2:1
>>    reduction inside and the pin / hole is in the smaller gear so u may have 
>> to
>>    turn it twice to make the pin go fully in.
>>    - Now the tricky bit.  I use a length of masking tape crossed over to
>>    secure the impulse in a fixed position but in such a way that once the 
>> flex
>>    coupling is almost in place the masking tape can be pulled out. THEN
>>    REMOVE THE POP RIVET    then reinstall the rear cap and the 3 screws
>>    .. note there is only one way it can go on.  Taking care not to dislodge
>>    the masking tape.
>>    - Now Double check Cyl*1 is at TDC.  Offer up the mag and the gasket
>>    as Rob has described.  Be real careful here.  You can see the coupling
>>    through the Alternator belt slot. With a torch. Once it looks as if it 
>> will
>>    slip in OK, remove the masking tape and reinstall the 2 mounting clamps 
>> but
>>    don’t tighten just yet.
>>    - Make up a small “buzzer”.  I use a real cheap electric ceramic
>>    buzzer (about the size of your finger nail and a 1.5 volt AA battery)
>>    Write it up and use 2 flying leads with clips at the end.   Check that 
>> when
>>    you join the clips together the buzzer makes a noise. Connect one clip to
>>    the “P” lead on the mag and the other to ground Now rotate the prop around
>>    the TDC point. You should hear a change of tone on the buzzer when the Mag
>>    points change state.  It is not much of a tone change but is clearly heard
>>    - Now identify the mark on the prop flange and rotate the prop around
>>    it listening for the change of buzzer tone.  Adjust the mag position so
>>    when rotating the prop in reverse (ie taking up any slack in the drive) 
>> the
>>    change of tone happens exactly when the flange mark is lined up with the
>>    split in the case halves.
>>    - Once you are happy tighten the 2 mag retaining clamp / bolts
>>    - Then slowly rotate the prop through all compressions and note the
>>    spark should correspond with that cylinder on its compression stroke   The
>>    firing order is 1 3 2 4   ie 2 bangs on one side and 2 on the other.
>>    - Because of the impulse of course the firing spark is quite retarded
>>    when turning the prop manually  and is roughly at TDC.   This is a good 
>> way
>>    of confirming u have it correct.
>>    - Then put the leads back on the mag, reinstall the starter and Carb.
>>    And of course the plugs and battery
>>    - All should then make the usual noise .
>>
>> I hope this is of some help
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Ian Williams
>>
>> ZK-GCB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> PS…   Is anybody else having big issues with Hoffmann propellors ??
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On
>> Behalf Of *Rob Thompson
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 30, 2023 9:38 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [DOG mailing list] Magneto removal.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1 Line up the engine at the timing mark firing on #1 cylinder.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2 Remove the engine control rods and starter motor so you have room to
>> get the magneto out and back in again.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3 Take the cap and harness off using a right angle screw driver. I
>> replaced the slot head screws with Alan screws to make the job easier to
>> refit the cap.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3 Loosen the magneto bolts with a long Alan key. I welded a long Alan key
>> to a 1/4 inch socket and then used a small ratchet spanner in behind the
>> magneto.
>>
>>
>>
>> 5 Follow the magneto install instructions in the manual. *It is
>> important to get the gasket measurement right or the magneto may FAIL.*
>> You can do a trial fit with plasticine or Blu Tac which compresses against
>> the flywheel and then measure that you have the right clearance.
>>
>>
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob Thompson
>>
>> 0429 493 828
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 6:22 AM Tomasz Dzikuć <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Dimona users.
>>
>>
>>
>> The date of inspection of our  magneto is approaching.
>>
>>
>>
>> The information I found on this list shows that the removal of the
>> magneto can be done without disassembling the entire engine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, we don't know how to do that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have any short instructions on how to do this or just can
>> write some tips here.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance and best regards from Poland.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tomasz Dzikuc
>>
>>
>>
>> TMG Team
>>
>> AZL Zielona Gora
>>
>>

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