But why don't you report bugs in your community forum? I mean, I am a
moderator of dolibarr.es forum and end-users post there the problems they
are having and I debug them and if I consider there is a bug I report it
with all the details required.

Several months ago we talked about upgrading doliforge but it seems that it
is no going to happen...

Regards,


*Marcos García*

marcos...@gmail.com


2014-11-06 1:10 GMT+01:00 Francois Couque <fcou...@infimo.fr>:

>  Hi,
> I consider myself as an end-user of Dolibarr and I have great respect for
> the small team of developpers of this project. I test beta versions and
> sometimes even git snapshots. I'm willing to help for tests but if you are
> an end user and you want to report a bug, it's nearly impossible.
> First , you need to look at the known or already reported bugs. That's not
> easy to find where you have to look for that as there is no public access.
> When you find what it seems the right place, you just cannot look at them
> without an account. I found that very weird for an open source project.
> Then you can submit a bug which will probably never be assigned or get
> comments if you're not  a developper. Even if the fix is described in the
> bug report. I don't blame someone. I just describe the way it currently
> works. Moreover if you just open an account which will needs days to be
> validated just to look at the known bugs, your account will be closed after
> a while.  That's only my experience and I guess many others users have
> probably given up like myself.
> If you want more end users reporting bugs and testing beta/ RC versions,
> just let them accessing the bugs databases freely , let them know the
> process of submitting or commenting a bug, let them help as end users. Not
> everybody can help as a developper. Listening to the end users , being able
> to get their feedback could be also indeed useful.
> There is probably a lot more end users than you think who are willing to
> help and submit bug report if they think it can be usefull.
> As a end user, 1 year seems way too much between 2 releases for me
> especially when you're waiting for or need a new feature. "Stable" versions
> will have old bugs and new bugs whatever the release cycle is anyway, I
> know. It would be more easily accepted if the bugs database was more
> exhaustive and public.
> My €0.02
> Francois.
>
> Le 05/11/2014 10:56, Christophe Battarel a écrit :
>
> Not sure it will work but we can try... i dont know many end users who
> tests beta versions; usually they wait for the "stable" release and they
> report bugs at this time (look at the posts in french forums when 3.6 was
> out...)
> For what i understand from your RC stuff, if we take an example with 3.5.x
> releases, 3.5.0 should have been the first RC and 3.5.5 the stable release ?
>
> Le 05/11/2014 10:24, Doursenaud, Raphaël a écrit :
>
>  Agreed that testing on an ERP is no easy feat.
>  But I support the idea of a public RC. Advertised efficiently, it would
> be a good way to get users into the pool.
> After all an RC is supposed to be stable, it's what we want to release. It
> has already passed the beta stages and we consider this should be the final
> product so it shouldn't have any major defect.
> Ideally consecutive betas and RCs should be published at a fixed rate, eg.
> once a week so there is enough time between each to make some work.
>  Also, when done correctly, the final release _is_ the last RC.
>
>  Cheers,
>
> 2014-11-05 0:40 GMT+01:00 Jacques PYRAT <jpy...@gmail.com>:
>
>> charles...@benke.fr a écrit le 05/11/2014 00:13 :
>>
>>> The establishment on an "visible" RC version (in the .fr and .org
>>> website) will permit users (not necessarily developer) to test more in
>>> depth version of this qualification and return faults detected. This is
>>> probably also to us to "educate" our clients to back the bugs. everyone
>>> will win.
>>>
>>  Hi,
>>
>> I'm an end user of Dolibar.
>> I'm here because I contribute to an other Open source Project (SPIP)
>> And so, I use to read developpers discussion to anticipate future.
>>
>> With SPIP, testing RC is OK.
>> But with Dolibarr, testing is dangerous !
>> I don't think that any en user would be confident testing RC given the
>> risk to loose essential data !
>>
>> My 2 cents,
>>
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