Some Border Patrol info, but first this:

KC, sounds like you're thinking about the Tom Johnston band. (Border Patrol 
was a separate entiry that came later.) The "kid on guitar" you refer to is 
Greg Douglass. Hard to think of Greg as a kid -- by the time he joined the 
TJB, he'd been a member of Hot Tuna, Steve Miller Band (co-wrote Jungle 
Love), Van Morrison Band, and numerous local Bay Area bands inlcuding some 
featuring Nicky Hopkins and John Cipollina from Quicksilver Messenger Service 
(Raven, Terry and the Pirates). Yes, Greg Played with Mistress. And yes, that 
was Brett Bloomfield on the second tour.

OK -- Border Patrol.  This band included TJ, John Hartman, David Hayes on 
bass (Van Morrison band, Jesse Colin Young band), Greg Douglass (guitar), and 
Charlie Williams (vocals... perhaps guitar, too? ) (Charlie Williams was from 
a band called Carrie Nation that was well known in the Bay Area in the mid 
1970s, but originally from the deep south.) Charlie Williams and TJ shared 
lead vocals. I'm not sure if any of their material appeared on the Cycles 
album, but they did perform a prototype version of "Showdown", which of 
course appeared on the Brotherhood album.  I don't know the exact dates of 
their existence -- somewhere in the mid 1980s. Also, their lineup could 
easily have changed -- someone on this list mentioned Hartman was out at some 
point? 

After Border Patrol, TJ played many local Bay Area dates as part of a band 
called the Tom Johnston/Greg Douglass band. This went on for about a year. 
They did many Bay Area gigs Additionally, Greg Douglass did a thing called 
the "Greg Douglass rock n roll revue" where he'd have different people 
performing with him on different nights. TJ was often a part of this. 

A side note, a short-lived band called "Little Joe" existed at this time, 
too. It featured Greg Douglass, Charlie Williams, Bobby Vega (future Zero 
bassist) and Greg Elmore on Drums (ex Quicksilver). They did a TJ/Greg 
Douglass tune called "Blind Love" that was hot. "Blind Love" was also done by 
Border Patrol. I wish the Doobies would do this song. 

At the Fan Club meeting two years ago TJ mentioned he and Greg Douglass still 
keep in touch -- and that he considered Greg a fantastic guitar player, which 
he is. Greg maintains an excellent website, where you can read his whole 
story. the url is 
www.gregdouglass.com

Now here's another question -- Has anyone heard of "Skin Suit"? This was a 
short-lived Bay Area band featuring Pat Simmons. This band existed sometime 
after the official Doobies' breakup. I understand it was an informal affair. 
I've never heard them or heard much about them. Anyone know?

Curt
Portland, OR


PS -- KC, I was at the Bodega and Keystone Palo Alto shows, too. Remember the 
band "Glide" opening for TJ in Palo Alto, w/Tiran playing guitar with them!?! 
And then Tiran sitting in with the TJ Band for the encore of China Grove and 
Long Train Runnin'....




In a message dated 2/18/101 11:56:15 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Certainly Jack, although frankly I never heard them referred to as
 "Border Patrol".  I remember them having the Memphis Horns with them also. I
 believe Donny Baldwin (of Elvin Bisop Band, Snail, & Starship) was the
 drummer that played  a year or so later for TJ's tour of the 2nd solo Album.
 Also wasnt Brett Bloomfield (of Micky Thomas Band, Snail, Starship) the bass
 player on the 2nd tour.?  I cant remember the kids name that played lead for
 him but I believe he was with  the "Stu Blank Band" and /or "Mistress"   Yea
 , Good shows at the Bodega, Keystone Palo Alto, and TJ opened a show for
 Tower of Power at the now defunct Circle Star Theatre. Bringing back some
 old, but fun memories now . . .
 KC in SJ >>
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