Believe me, I'm all for modern browsers and I wish everyone in the world used IE 6.x, but they don't.....yet.
I still try to develop pages that look good on NS 4.7 because almost 10% of visitors still use it, unfortunately. Probably in 2003, I'll drop NS 4.7 from my compatibility list and develop strictly for IE. We'll see what happens in Internet world... Francesco >From: "Brian G. Vallelunga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: dotnet discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [DOTNET] To Frame or Not to Frame >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:46:04 -0400 > >Francesco, > >Netscape 4.7... ha ha ha.... Actually, my site should not use any styles >at all with Netscape 4.7, and it shouldn't because Netscape only >partially implements style sheets, and it does a horrible job at that. >So, yes, the photo browser won't work in NS 4.7. The rest of the pages >should read absolutely fine though, if the goal is content. On a modern >browser, the site looks fine. Yes, it was a tradeoff, but one that I >chose to make because supporting Netscape 4.x requires too much work, >and far too many hacks to get things to look correctly. > >My site does not use tables to align things, nor many graphics either. I >can change the entire look in a few lines of code (thanks to aspx user >controls and css) and it would even be very readable on a text only >browser. You must understand that continued use of Netscape 4.x simply >makes life harder for web developers around the world. The truth is that >my site would look better in Lynx than Netscape 4.x. > >That said, there are many good browsers out there that support newer >standards. Check out this page for more information on what to upgrade >to, and why you should do so. http://www.webstandards.org/upgrade/ > >A good place to learn about CSS and why it is important is here: >http://www.alistapart.com/stories/journey/ and >http://www.alistapart.com/stories/tohell/ > >Happy coding! > >Brian > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Francesco Sanfilippo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:51 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [DOTNET] To Frame or Not to Frame > > >Your site crashes horribly on Netscape 4.7... > >Francesco > > > > > >From: "Brian G. Vallelunga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: dotnet discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [DOTNET] To Frame or Not to Frame > >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:24:28 -0400 > > > >These days, if you're going to use CSS (which you should) you can get a > > >frames effect, without the actual use of frames. Basically, you set the > > >overflow property for a div to "scroll" or "auto" and you'll have what > >looks like a frameset. > > > >To see this technique in action, you can check out my photo section of > >my website: http://brian.vallelunga.com/photos/ click on one of the > >albums to launch a separate photo viewer. Notice that the list of icons > > >on the left is scrollable. Then check out the underlying XML and style > >sheet. > > > >Brian > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jim Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:37 AM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [DOTNET] To Frame or Not to Frame > > > > > >Frames are the only option in some cases (eg when displaying embedded > >non-html documents). Bookmarking can be achieved by using a content > >"engine" which takes a page id and builds the frameset dynamically. I > >hate frames too, but they're a necessary evil sometimes :-/ > > > >Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Reggie Burnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: 18 April 2002 14:34 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [DOTNET] To Frame or Not to Frame > > > > > > > > > I have always hated frames due to problems with bookmarking. There > > > has > > > > > been a steady tendency away from frames in general over the last 1-2 > > > > years. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dotnet discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > > Behalf Of > > > Rob Mc > > > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:52 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [DOTNET] To Frame or Not to Frame > > > > > > > > > We are in the early design stages for an ASP.Net application and are > > > > trying to determine whether to use frames or an IBUYSPY type > > > presentation approach. 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