Francesco, Netscape 4.7... ha ha ha.... Actually, my site should not use any styles at all with Netscape 4.7, and it shouldn't because Netscape only partially implements style sheets, and it does a horrible job at that. So, yes, the photo browser won't work in NS 4.7. The rest of the pages should read absolutely fine though, if the goal is content. On a modern browser, the site looks fine. Yes, it was a tradeoff, but one that I chose to make because supporting Netscape 4.x requires too much work, and far too many hacks to get things to look correctly.
My site does not use tables to align things, nor many graphics either. I can change the entire look in a few lines of code (thanks to aspx user controls and css) and it would even be very readable on a text only browser. You must understand that continued use of Netscape 4.x simply makes life harder for web developers around the world. The truth is that my site would look better in Lynx than Netscape 4.x. That said, there are many good browsers out there that support newer standards. Check out this page for more information on what to upgrade to, and why you should do so. http://www.webstandards.org/upgrade/ A good place to learn about CSS and why it is important is here: http://www.alistapart.com/stories/journey/ and http://www.alistapart.com/stories/tohell/ Happy coding! Brian -----Original Message----- From: Francesco Sanfilippo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DOTNET] To Frame or Not to Frame Your site crashes horribly on Netscape 4.7... Francesco >From: "Brian G. Vallelunga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: dotnet discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [DOTNET] To Frame or Not to Frame >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:24:28 -0400 > >These days, if you're going to use CSS (which you should) you can get a >frames effect, without the actual use of frames. Basically, you set the >overflow property for a div to "scroll" or "auto" and you'll have what >looks like a frameset. > >To see this technique in action, you can check out my photo section of >my website: http://brian.vallelunga.com/photos/ click on one of the >albums to launch a separate photo viewer. Notice that the list of icons >on the left is scrollable. Then check out the underlying XML and style >sheet. > >Brian > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:37 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [DOTNET] To Frame or Not to Frame > > >Frames are the only option in some cases (eg when displaying embedded >non-html documents). Bookmarking can be achieved by using a content >"engine" which takes a page id and builds the frameset dynamically. I >hate frames too, but they're a necessary evil sometimes :-/ > >Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Reggie Burnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 18 April 2002 14:34 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [DOTNET] To Frame or Not to Frame > > > > > > I have always hated frames due to problems with bookmarking. There > > has > > > been a steady tendency away from frames in general over the last 1-2 > > years. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dotnet discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > Behalf Of > > Rob Mc > > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:52 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [DOTNET] To Frame or Not to Frame > > > > > > We are in the early design stages for an ASP.Net application and are > > trying to determine whether to use frames or an IBUYSPY type > > presentation approach. We would very much appreciate any comments > > as to the pros and cons of either. > > > > You can read messages from the DOTNET archive, unsubscribe from > > DOTNET, or subscribe to other DevelopMentor lists at > > http://discuss.develop.com. > > > > You can read messages from the DOTNET archive, unsubscribe from > > DOTNET, or subscribe to other DevelopMentor lists at > > http://discuss.develop.com. > > > >You can read messages from the DOTNET archive, unsubscribe from DOTNET, >or subscribe to other DevelopMentor lists at >http://discuss.develop.com. > >You can read messages from the DOTNET archive, unsubscribe from DOTNET, >or subscribe to other DevelopMentor lists at >http://discuss.develop.com. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com You can read messages from the DOTNET archive, unsubscribe from DOTNET, or subscribe to other DevelopMentor lists at http://discuss.develop.com. You can read messages from the DOTNET archive, unsubscribe from DOTNET, or subscribe to other DevelopMentor lists at http://discuss.develop.com.
