Hi all, this was already implemented by me (for Windows Systems) but has never gone into production.
http://saros-build.imp.fu-berlin.de/reviews/r/216/diff/#index_header The solution uses native OS calls (Win32 API). As you can see, you have at least to implement stuff for *nix and Mac as well ... it is not that easy to make something "blink" in the taskbar :P As for popups (either in Eclipse) or at the task bar of your OS, avoid them, because they are annoying. BR, Stefan Am 09.11.2012 15:16, schrieb Zieris, Franz: > Dear Thomas and Christoph, > > First of all, thanks for showing so much interest in Saros in general and in > this topic in particular. > > On one hand I'm quite happy with some of your points, e.g. your thoughts > about the big picture: not only adding one new type of notification, but > asking for more occasions and optionally reworking all notifications at once. > > Unfortunately, on the other hand I see a couple of impediments down the way: > * We've been working on disentangling our license model since May 2012 -- > but (obviously) not at full power, which is not due to a lack of motivation, > but of resources. Therefore I'm a bit nervous when > thinking about introducing new dependencies. (Although replacing the > BalloonWindows implementation with the Mylyn solution would only replace one > EPL-licensed piece of code with another.) > > * The chat is currently "under construction". So if you're going to change > something related to the chat, you'll have to take care of the ongoing > process. (See [1] as an entry point for more detailed information, the IDs > mentioned there refer to our review system Gerrit [4]; synopsis: we have 13 > (!) chat-related patches in our "queue" and you would have to build your > changes on top of the last one, and *not* the current state of the chat.) > That situation is really unsatisfying, I'm working on that. > > * These 13 chat-related patches introduce session-independent 1-to-1-chats, > each of which is represented by a separate tab [2]. Therefore the whole idea > of introducing some kind of message notification is be rethought. The user > won't need the information "there is a new message in your one and only chat > window"; rather something like "there are unread messages in these particular > tabs". > > > To make a long story short: If you want to satisfy this feature request, > you'll need to think about the actual user needs that arise from the new > 1-to-1-chats. Some ideas: > * Highlight the corresponding tab(s) by color, font weight, blinking, > outstanding icon ... surprise us! > * Display the number of unread message (like Skype (?)) > > Please make sure that you put your ideas up for discussion *before* actually > submit your patch(es) -- we take usability seriously [3]. > > > Best Regards, > Franz > > > Links: > [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.saros.devel/333 > [2] https://www.dropbox.com/s/37xzxt8e8a0b5ad/saros-new-chat.png > [3] http://www.saros-project.org/UsabilityEngineering > [4] http://saros-build.imp.fu-berlin.de/gerrit > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SourceForge.net [mailto:nore...@sourceforge.net] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 1:17 PM > To: SourceForge.net > Subject: [Dpp-robot] [ dpp-Feature Requests-3392259 ] No notification about > new Chat entries > > Feature Requests item #3392259, was opened at 2011-08-16 01:11 > Message generated for change (Comment added) made by > You can respond by visiting: > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=843362&aid=3392259&group_id=167540 > > Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, > including the initial issue submission, for this request, > not just the latest update. > Category: None > Group: None > Status: Open > Priority: 3 > Private: No > Submitted By: erosen (erosen) > Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) > Summary: No notification about new Chat entries > > Initial Comment: > Notification about new Chat entries would be nice. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Comment By: cviebig () > Date: 2012-11-09 04:16 > > Message: > Thomas Benndorf and me, Christoph Viebig, would like to implement this > feature request in the context of an university course. > > We would like to take up the idea to add visual notifications to inform the > user about new events in Saros and follow the often used approach to show a > desktop notification popup. > > An implementation already used in Saros is the class BalloonWindow in > com.novocode.naf.swt.custom (ext-src) which displays a Windows XP style > balloon notification, as seen in [1]. The Class is licensed under EPL. > > The Eclipse project tried to sum up the current state of such UI > Notifications in Eclipse subprojects [2]. It found out that there are > currently no standard API's in the major operating systems (Windows, Linux, > Mac) to show such notifications although the use of such functionality > would be favorable. > > Furthermore they observed that there are two projects that implement > desktop notification popups theirselves. On the one hand (1) Mylyn and on > the other (2) Jazz [4,5]. > > While we have to admit that the licensing of the Jazz library is at the > moment unclear to us, Mylyn is licensed under EPL. > > As far as we can see in [2] it seems that the Mylyn notification popups are > commonly used to display more than one event at the same time, allowing the > user to quickly catch a larger part of chat messages to decide wether an > immediate response is needed. > > In contrast Jazz notification popups seem to use a paged approach > displaying only one event at a time. > > To sum everything up: There are three options to implement desktop > notification popups. The option already used in one part of Saros displays > Windows XP style balloons. > > Is it desirable to replace it by an alternative implementation which might > be more flexible and comes with a more platform independent design? > > Just to get a feeling for such popups we implemented a small demo > application with Mylyn notifications. We noticed that we need to provide an > extra thread to display and dispose the notification popups. As far as we > could see Saros code is frequently using > de.fu_berlin.inf.dpp.util.Utils.run*Async() for such jobs. > As dependency org.eclipse.mylyn.commons.ui_3.8.2.v20120916-1200.jar (from > http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/downloads/) is needed which is licensed under > the EPL 1.0. > > As far as we could see the IMUCSessionListener::messageReceived() defined > in ChatroomsComposite Class (in de.fu_berlin.inf.dpp.ui.widgets.session) > would be the place to trigger new visual notifications for incoming chat > messages. Adding more notifications for updates in the Whiteboard seem to > be useful to us as well. > Do you see further uses for notification popups? > > We hope we did not miss anything and would be glad if you share your > opionion about our thoughts with us. Thank you very much in advance :) > > [1] http://www.novocode.com/swt/ > [2] http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform_UI/Notifications > [3] http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/ > [4] http://www.jazz.net/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Comment By: erosen (erosen) > Date: 2011-08-18 01:38 > > Message: > I mean some kind of visual notification (not necessarily a new bubble, but > maybe three times blinking or so) for those (like me) who do not get sounds > from Saros, because Skype is blocking the mike. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Comment By: Karl Beecher (k_beecher) > Date: 2011-08-17 05:39 > > Message: > What kind of notifications do you mean? There's already optional sound. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. 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