Is there any documentation on how STF does the RMI? I would like to look into that and test it with IntelliJ, before we start with such a big venture :-)
Graham, how much would you like to dig into that? (We can also talk directly on that, if you'd like to) Apart from the UI Testing, I am trying to set up tests for the file handling and having problems: http://devnet.jetbrains.com/thread/455971 Any help is appreciated :-) Regards, Holger Holger Schmeisky; holge...@fu-berlin.de Takustraße 9, Room 008, Freie Universität Berlin, 14195 Berlin +49 176 64146306 Am 21.07.2014 14:02, schrieb Stefan Rossbach: > Hi again, > > I just looked at the UISpec4J Framework and it seems that this is the > *equivalent* to SWTBot. > > So my suggestion would be to write a script that will generate code so > that those methods can be accessed via > RMI. You can look at the RemoteBot of the STF. Although this was purely > written by hand (Please do not ask my why ...) > it may be a good start. > > > On 21.07.2014 13:51, Stefan Rossbach wrote: >> On 21.07.2014 13:40, Holger Schmeisky wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> thanks for looking into this. My 2 cents: >>> >>>> - they try to stick to testing the 'model', using headless >>>> builds. If >>>> there's already a separated 'core' of Saros, which can be tested in >>>> isolation, and there's only really plumbing left to do, that may not be >>>> applicable for the Saros-I code. >>> Unfortunately the Saros-I code does more than plumbing - more like >>> half of the work, but with a lot of duplication. But well, that makes >>> it applicable for headless tests and I think thats a good path :-) >> There are two main components: The Editor Stuff and the File Stuff which >> cannot be part of the core. The rest should be mostly *cosmetic* stuff >> (beside the Watchdog). >>>> Would it be worth investigating one of these libraries to see if it's >>>> possible to spin up an IntelliJ instance in a JUnit test? >>>> >>> Yep, it's Swing. In Saros/E we fire up 2 Eclipse instances that run >>> the Saros version and execute actions on them via RMI. In IDEA I had >>> no luck starting two IDEA instances from one instance >>> (http://devnet.jetbrains.com/message/5520017#5520017), so I suspended >>> that thought for the moment. >> We actually fire up 4 instances (we could even fire up more). We do not >> really execute "actions" (ok at least a few) with RMI. Most RMI calls >> delegates to the SWTBot Framework so we really >> simulate user input (sorry if you meant this with actions). >>> Having an "OK it still works" integration test would be really >>> helpful, but I am a bit intimidated by the setup work this would >>> require (given the instances issues and the whole hassle of UI tests). >>> >>> A lower level where the tests would already make sense would be the >>> directory creation / file handling level because I am having issues >>> there at the moment. >> If you want to use headless tests make sure IDEA is not using SWING. The >> CI Server is running without a display (for good reasons). >>> Regards, >>> Holger >>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> Graham >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 21 July 2014 11:24, Stefan Rossbach <srossb...@arcor.de >>>> <mailto:srossb...@arcor.de>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would suggest a similar framework like SWTBot for AWT(Swing) >>>> applications which can be accessed with RMI >>>> as we do with our STF. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 21.07.2014 11 <tel:21.07.2014%2011>:28, Holger Schmeisky wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Graham, >>>> >>>> I am very glad to hear from you! >>>> >>>> Franz already told me about you and I read your quite >>>> enthusiastic blog >>>> post about Saros for Eclipse and how it compares to other >>>> solutions :-) >>>> >>>> There probably will be too much churn in the development >>>> branch >>>> for it >>>> be a good base for collaboration. I think it is a better >>>> idea to >>>> wait >>>> with that until a runnable version is in the master branch, so >>>> you can >>>> branch from there and develop from a clean state. >>>> >>>> The next biggest impediment is, that there are no automated >>>> tests for >>>> the development version and it has to be tested manually -- we >>>> should >>>> fix that rather early I'd say. >>>> >>>> I'm working on that at the moment, but experiencing >>>> problems. Is >>>> anybody >>>> here who has experience testing IDEA IntelliJ plugins? :-) >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Holger >>>> >>>> >>>> Holger Schmeisky; holge...@fu-berlin.de >>>> <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de> >>>> Takustraße 9, Room 008, Freie Universität Berlin, 14195 Berlin >>>> +49 176 64146306 <tel:%2B49%20176%2064146306> >>>> >>>> Am 18.07.2014 20:23, schrieb Graham Allan: >>>> >>>> Hi Holger, >>>> >>>> Great to hear! >>>> >>>> I work for a company based in London, from my home in >>>> Scotland. Saros >>>> has been a big part of our development process for over 18 >>>> months now, >>>> and myself and my team are very keen to see the IntelliJ >>>> plugin. I've >>>> already contributed the ant build script for the Saros-I >>>> project and am >>>> eager to do more. >>>> >>>> Would you recommend checking out the current code or will >>>> there be so >>>> much churn in that area that we may as well wait? >>>> >>>> Kind regards and have a great weekend, >>>> Graham >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16 July 2014 13:43, Holger Schmeisky >>>> <holge...@fu-berlin.de <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de> >>>> <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de >>>> <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de>>__> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> my name is Holger and I am a colleague of Franz, >>>> currently working at FU >>>> Berlin on the development of Saros for JetBrains >>>> IDEA >>>> (IntelliJ, >>>> PyCharm, PhpStorm, ...). >>>> >>>> An IDEA version is under way and there is already a >>>> halfway-usable >>>> development version (in the development/raimondas2 >>>> branch). It already >>>> has the basic features like project sharing, >>>> editing, >>>> follow mode, etc. >>>> However this version still misses a lot, is without >>>> automated tests and >>>> has only partially been merged into the master >>>> branch. >>>> >>>> In about 2-3 weeks, the code will be in a shape >>>> where >>>> other people can >>>> actually develop on it. I think it already makes >>>> sense >>>> to get in touch >>>> before, to get to know the codebase and our >>>> development process. >>>> >>>> So if you are interested in joining Saros/I >>>> development, please contact >>>> me or write here, so I can get to know you and >>>> get an >>>> overview how much >>>> interest there is :-) >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Holger >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Holger Schmeisky; holge...@fu-berlin.de >>>> <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de> >>>> <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de >>>> <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de>> >>>> Takustraße 9, Room 008, Freie Universität Berlin, >>>> 14195 Berlin >>>> +49 176 64146306 <tel:%2B49%20176%2064146306> >>>> <tel:%2B49%20176%2064146306> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------__------------------------------__------------------ >>>> >>>> Want fast and easy access to all the code in your >>>> enterprise? 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