>
> Is there any documentation on how STF does the RMI? I would like to look
> into that and test it with IntelliJ, before we start with such a big
> venture :-)
> Graham, how much would you like to dig into that? (We can also talk
> directly on that, if you'd like to)
Yup, I'd be happy to do that. I may need some to get some background info
on how the Eclipse testing works, I'm unfamiliar with SWTBot, etc. What
would you recommend for figuring that out? Do you think it's understandable
by digging into the Saros code? Maybe a chat over Skype/Hangout/etc?
Also, I kept up with most of the acronyms, but you lost me on STF, what is
that?
Cheers,
Graham
On 21 July 2014 15:53, Stefan Rossbach <srossb...@arcor.de> wrote:
> The RemoteBot is just a RMI Wrapper around the SWTBot Framework. No magic,
> nothing.
>
> IMyFooWrapper extends Remote ....
>
> MyFooWrapperImpl implements IMyFooWrapper ...
>
> private ... delegate
>
> public void foo() { delegate.foo() }
>
> Just take a look at the STFController class.
>
> As for you test case. Your class path is not set correctly and if Headless
> tests does not support multiple classloaders you are out of luck.
>
>
> On 21.07.2014 15:17, Holger Schmeisky wrote:
>
>> Is there any documentation on how STF does the RMI? I would like to look
>> into that and test it with IntelliJ, before we start with such a big
>> venture :-)
>>
>> Graham, how much would you like to dig into that? (We can also talk
>> directly on that, if you'd like to)
>>
>> Apart from the UI Testing, I am trying to set up tests for the file
>> handling and having problems:
>>
>> http://devnet.jetbrains.com/thread/455971
>>
>> Any help is appreciated :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Holger
>>
>> Holger Schmeisky; holge...@fu-berlin.de
>> Takustraße 9, Room 008, Freie Universität Berlin, 14195 Berlin
>> +49 176 64146306
>>
>> Am 21.07.2014 14:02, schrieb Stefan Rossbach:
>>
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> I just looked at the UISpec4J Framework and it seems that this is the
>>> *equivalent* to SWTBot.
>>>
>>> So my suggestion would be to write a script that will generate code so
>>> that those methods can be accessed via
>>> RMI. You can look at the RemoteBot of the STF. Although this was purely
>>> written by hand (Please do not ask my why ...)
>>> it may be a good start.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21.07.2014 13:51, Stefan Rossbach wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 21.07.2014 13:40, Holger Schmeisky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for looking into this. My 2 cents:
>>>>>
>>>>> - they try to stick to testing the 'model', using headless
>>>>>> builds. If
>>>>>> there's already a separated 'core' of Saros, which can be tested in
>>>>>> isolation, and there's only really plumbing left to do, that may not
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> applicable for the Saros-I code.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately the Saros-I code does more than plumbing - more like
>>>>> half of the work, but with a lot of duplication. But well, that makes
>>>>> it applicable for headless tests and I think thats a good path :-)
>>>>>
>>>> There are two main components: The Editor Stuff and the File Stuff which
>>>> cannot be part of the core. The rest should be mostly *cosmetic* stuff
>>>> (beside the Watchdog).
>>>>
>>>>> Would it be worth investigating one of these libraries to see if it's
>>>>>> possible to spin up an IntelliJ instance in a JUnit test?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, it's Swing. In Saros/E we fire up 2 Eclipse instances that run
>>>>> the Saros version and execute actions on them via RMI. In IDEA I had
>>>>> no luck starting two IDEA instances from one instance
>>>>> (http://devnet.jetbrains.com/message/5520017#5520017), so I suspended
>>>>> that thought for the moment.
>>>>>
>>>> We actually fire up 4 instances (we could even fire up more). We do not
>>>> really execute "actions" (ok at least a few) with RMI. Most RMI calls
>>>> delegates to the SWTBot Framework so we really
>>>> simulate user input (sorry if you meant this with actions).
>>>>
>>>>> Having an "OK it still works" integration test would be really
>>>>> helpful, but I am a bit intimidated by the setup work this would
>>>>> require (given the instances issues and the whole hassle of UI tests).
>>>>>
>>>>> A lower level where the tests would already make sense would be the
>>>>> directory creation / file handling level because I am having issues
>>>>> there at the moment.
>>>>>
>>>> If you want to use headless tests make sure IDEA is not using SWING. The
>>>> CI Server is running without a display (for good reasons).
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Holger
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21 July 2014 11:24, Stefan Rossbach <srossb...@arcor.de
>>>>>> <mailto:srossb...@arcor.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would suggest a similar framework like SWTBot for AWT(Swing)
>>>>>> applications which can be accessed with RMI
>>>>>> as we do with our STF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21.07.2014 11 <tel:21.07.2014%2011>:28, Holger Schmeisky
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Graham,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am very glad to hear from you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Franz already told me about you and I read your quite
>>>>>> enthusiastic blog
>>>>>> post about Saros for Eclipse and how it compares to other
>>>>>> solutions :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There probably will be too much churn in the development
>>>>>> branch
>>>>>> for it
>>>>>> be a good base for collaboration. I think it is a better
>>>>>> idea to
>>>>>> wait
>>>>>> with that until a runnable version is in the master branch,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> you can
>>>>>> branch from there and develop from a clean state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The next biggest impediment is, that there are no automated
>>>>>> tests for
>>>>>> the development version and it has to be tested manually --
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> fix that rather early I'd say.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm working on that at the moment, but experiencing
>>>>>> problems. Is
>>>>>> anybody
>>>>>> here who has experience testing IDEA IntelliJ plugins? :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Holger
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Holger Schmeisky; holge...@fu-berlin.de
>>>>>> <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de>
>>>>>> Takustraße 9, Room 008, Freie Universität Berlin, 14195
>>>>>> Berlin
>>>>>> +49 176 64146306 <tel:%2B49%20176%2064146306>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 18.07.2014 20:23, schrieb Graham Allan:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Holger,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great to hear!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I work for a company based in London, from my home in
>>>>>> Scotland. Saros
>>>>>> has been a big part of our development process for over
>>>>>> 18
>>>>>> months now,
>>>>>> and myself and my team are very keen to see the IntelliJ
>>>>>> plugin. I've
>>>>>> already contributed the ant build script for the Saros-I
>>>>>> project and am
>>>>>> eager to do more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would you recommend checking out the current code or will
>>>>>> there be so
>>>>>> much churn in that area that we may as well wait?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards and have a great weekend,
>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16 July 2014 13:43, Holger Schmeisky
>>>>>> <holge...@fu-berlin.de <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de>
>>>>>> <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de
>>>>>> <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de>>__> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my name is Holger and I am a colleague of Franz,
>>>>>> currently working at FU
>>>>>> Berlin on the development of Saros for JetBrains
>>>>>> IDEA
>>>>>> (IntelliJ,
>>>>>> PyCharm, PhpStorm, ...).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An IDEA version is under way and there is already a
>>>>>> halfway-usable
>>>>>> development version (in the development/raimondas2
>>>>>> branch). It already
>>>>>> has the basic features like project sharing,
>>>>>> editing,
>>>>>> follow mode, etc.
>>>>>> However this version still misses a lot, is without
>>>>>> automated tests and
>>>>>> has only partially been merged into the master
>>>>>> branch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In about 2-3 weeks, the code will be in a shape
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> other people can
>>>>>> actually develop on it. I think it already makes
>>>>>> sense
>>>>>> to get in touch
>>>>>> before, to get to know the codebase and our
>>>>>> development process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if you are interested in joining Saros/I
>>>>>> development, please contact
>>>>>> me or write here, so I can get to know you and
>>>>>> get an
>>>>>> overview how much
>>>>>> interest there is :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Holger
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Holger Schmeisky; holge...@fu-berlin.de
>>>>>> <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de>
>>>>>> <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de
>>>>>> <mailto:holge...@fu-berlin.de>>
>>>>>> Takustraße 9, Room 008, Freie Universität Berlin,
>>>>>> 14195 Berlin
>>>>>> +49 176 64146306 <tel:%2B49%20176%2064146306>
>>>>>> <tel:%2B49%20176%2064146306>
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