Hi,

by the time we are ready to switch to Java 7 (approximately a year from
now) it will be also "outdated", as Franz stated earlier. So it would make
sense to evaluate again if we can directly switch to java 8 by the time we
ready to switch Versions.
Otherwise I support and agree with the solution to wait for 5% drop.

Best
Matthias

PS:
Not directly related to this issue, but something we should have to keep in
mind when developing the test-framework for the HTML UI: A good portion of
the current HTML UI would be changing (especially the way we might test the
UI) with the usage of JavaFX (stable) available with Java 7. So waiting to
long might cause a lot of unnecessary rework in that regard. It would be a
bit irksome to developing a test-framework for the current solution over
the next year and then drop huge parts of it, when changing to JavaFX. I
just want to through that thought in, while I am very uncertain about how
many of the framework would be reusable, or how much adaptation would be
necessary.

2015-09-15 18:36 GMT+02:00 Zieris, Franz <franz.zie...@fu-berlin.de>:

> Sure, for a separate component such as the server, Java 7 is a reasonable
> requirement.
> There are no existing users anyway, and a Java-7-compatible environment is
> not too much to ask for a new piece of software.
>
> Franz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Denis Washington [mailto:de...@denisw.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:22 PM
> To: Zieris, Franz <franz.zie...@fu-berlin.de>; Stefan Rossbach <
> srossb...@arcor.de>
> Cc: dpp-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [DPP-Devel] IntelliJ 15 for OS X will come with JDK 8
>
>
>
> On 15.09.2015 11:19, Zieris, Franz wrote:
> > So how about this plan:
> >   - We wait until the segment of up-to-Eclipse-4.3 users drops below 5%.
> >   - Then we evaluate whether we still need the SWTBot (it might be
> superseded by the HTML GUI and its testing framework by then)
> >     and if so, whether it still works, and make adjustments when
> necessary.
> >   - Then we switch the Saros project to Java 7.
> >
> > Any comments?
>
> Seems sensible, though I hope I can still use Java 7 for the server. The
> IDE usage arguments don't apply to that scenarion, and having to
> implement the filesystem interfaces (especially IPath) without
> java.nio.files would be a needlessly big pain.
>
> Regards,
> Denis
>
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