Ken,
I'm not at all surprised by the test results.  The Drake, Collins and Heath 
gear was excellent stuff.  
73
Rick
W0RT
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ken Bessler 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:48 AM
  Subject: [drakelist] Noise floor measument on a TR4


  I just built an Elecraft XG-2 test generator. For those
  who don't know the model, it's a high accuracy
  (output level -107dbm +/-1db) 80/40/20 meter RF
  generator. I've used it in the past to determine the
  Minimum Discernable Signal or noise floor of a reciever.
   
  Here are some of the past results I've gotten:
   
  Elecraft K2 #4913             -143dbm
  Kenwood TS-850SAT         -136dbm
  Yaesu FT-920                  -137dbm
   
  Now to the good stuff - my recently aquired TR4:
   
  20m:  -147dbm
  40m:  -152dbm
  80m:  -151dbm
   
  To measure this I injected the generator's -107dbm
  (1 microvolt) signal and measured it's peak then
  measured the noise next to the carrier and did a 
  little math. I also measured the same spot with the
  generator on and off.
   
  My numbers might be off because I could not turn
  off my AGC but to correct for this I made measurements
  at many differant "RCVR GAIN" settings on the TR-4 and
  averaged them out. I found that with the gain set to
  anything less than 11 o'clock, there was no AGC action.
   
  I used "Rocky", a SDR program that shows the spectrum
  around a signal like a pan adapter. I also ran the tests
  witn "Spectrogram", a spectrum analyzer and got very
  close to the same numbers. Another impression is by
  my ears - the -107dbm signal seemed to be easiest to
  pick out of the noise on the TR4 than the other rigs.
   
  BTW the 50 microvolt setting produced a S9 signal
  on all three bands.
   
  The main reason I wanted to test the MDS of my TR4
  is the fact that the reciever is sooooo quiet that I got
  the impression that it was deaf or broken.....
   
  Deaf? NOT! 
   
  I've only been a Drake owner for 5 days but I'm quickly
  becoming a fan!

  73's de Ken KG0WX - Kadiddlehopper #11808,
             Flying Pigs #-1055, Grid EM17io


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