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Chuck -

I was just typing my last as you were sending yours... Great minds, etc. :-)

Nothing like having the right schematic..... C159 is a 0.01 disc ceramic in this version.

R142 likely has gone way up in value or cracked. Not in the earlier schematic I was looking at.

Schematic in separate message off reflector.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line & TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>



Chuck Grandgent wrote:
C159 was definitely bad Garey, replaced that and now I have S-meter action. However I still have no plate voltage on V5, and for the life of me I can't see how it's wired for it. It seems to have a 22k resistor across T10 on the V5 plate side, and other than that and the connection to C159, I don't see how it gets to any voltage, it's like R142 is missing.

My serial number is 6987.

   Chuck, K1OM

On Feb 15, 2008 11:30 PM, Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


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    Chuck -

    C159 may be very leaky or shorted.   0.1 uF at 200V.  You may have a
    fault in T10.  B+ is applied to V5 through the primary of T10 and one
    end of the secondary is at ground.  Check DC voltages on either
    side of
    T10.  A plate-suppressor grid short in V5 could have smoked T10,
    so use
    a known good tube.

    The 6HS6 filament is just a filament wiring anomaly.   According
    to s/n
    4054 schematic Pin 4 should be 6.3 and Pin 3 should be 0.  What is the
    s/n of your R-4A?  I have the correct schematic.

    73, Garey - K4OAH
    Glen Allen, VA

    Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line & TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
    <www.k4oah.com <http://www.k4oah.com>>



    Chuck Grandgent wrote:
    > The plot thickens.
    > I checked resistance and voltage at all the pins for V2, V3, V4, V5.
    > The two bads are:
    >   1) V5 12BA6 pin 5 (plate), resistance is 150 ohms, s/b 10k.  And
    > votage is 3 volts, s/b 110v
    > I guess R41 and maybe R142 bear more checking, though if either of
    > these went high, I can't account for the low plate to ground
    > resistance through this fault.
    > Swapped this tube also with no effect.
    >
    >   2) V2 6HS6, manual says pin 3 (filament) s/b 6.3, is zero and
    pin 4
    > (filament) s/b 12.6, is 6.4.  Looking at the schematic, not sure
    what
    > to make of that.  And actually I did swap between my two 6HS6's with
    > no difference.
    >
    >    Chuck, K1OM
    >
    > On Feb 10, 2008 6:54 PM, Chuck Grandgent
    <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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    >
    >     OK, got some time to spend on this today.
    >     R40, R41, R42, and R89 SEEMED to checkout OK.
    >     However, if I put a potentiometer across R41 and adjust it for a
    >     low value, I can get the S-meter to respond.  Then, the S-meter
    >     zero adjustment R42 can bring the S-meter to any level on
    the meter.
    >     But, it seems totally non-responsive to any received signal.
    >
    >     I was also able to adjust the receiver sensitivity potentiometer
    >     on the bottom so TP2 was minus 1.35 volts.
    >
    >     I replaced V4, V5, and V3, with no discernable difference.  I
    >     didn't have a spare for V2 6HS6.
    >
    >     What to check now ?
    >
    >     Thanks,   Chuck, K1OM
    >
    >
    >     On Feb 6, 2008 5:12 PM, Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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    >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
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    >
    >         Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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    >         Chuck -
    >
    >         OK.  That's good!
    >
    >          From your description, the AVC circuitry is working...
    >
    >         I don't have a good photo, but I bet three of the four
    >         components are on
    >         the board with the S-Meter Sensitivity pot, next to the
    >         crystal.  R40
    >         (1k Trim), R41 (820), R89 (560) and associated
    connections.  A
    >         series of
    >         ohmmeter checks should find it.  I'm betting R40 is
    open, or a
    >         broken
    >         wire/connection.  :-)
    >
    >         73, Garey - K4OAH
    >         Glen Allen, VA
    >
    >         Drake 2-B, 4-B & C-Line Service Supplement CDs
    >         <www.k4oah.com <http://www.k4oah.com>
    <http://www.k4oah.com>>
    >
    >
    >
    >         Chuck Grandgent wrote:
    >         > Thanks Garey,
    >         >
    >         > well the meter seems OK, the DMM on lowest resistance
    range
    >         causes it
    >         > to deflect a tad.  I had to repair the AVC switch at one
    >         point, I
    >         > guess I should check there, among other places.
    >         >
    >         >    Chuck, K1OM
    >         >
    >         > On Feb 6, 2008 4:20 PM, Garey Barrell
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    >         >
    >         >     Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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    >         >     Chuck -
    >         >
    >         >     The S-Meter is a simple bridge circuit that
    compares the
    >         plate current
    >         >     of V2 and V3 with the plate current of V4 and V5.
     There
    >         are only two
    >         >     resistors and two trim-pots!  Since the radio seems to
    >         be working more
    >         >     or less normally, those tubes are probably "good
    >         enough".  If the
    >         >     meter
    >         >     needle is just sitting there on the mechanical zero
    >         point, it's most
    >         >     likely an "open" in that circuitry.  Just as a guess,
    >         I'd first check
    >         >     the meter terminal connections, then wonder about the
    >         S-Meter
    >         >     Sensitivity pot, but it could be a bad connection or
    >         (YIKES!) an open
    >         >     meter movement.  The movement itself is 3 mA, as
    are ALL
    >         the R-4/T-4
    >         >     meters, so can be checked with a DMM for continuity.
    >          Don't try to
    >         >     use a
    >         >     VOM, as they put too much current through the ohmmeter
    >         circuit.
    >         >
    >         >     73, Garey - K4OAH
    >         >     Glen Allen, VA
    >         >
    >         >     Drake 2-B, 4-B & C-Line Service Supplement CDs
    >         >     <www.k4oah.com <http://www.k4oah.com>
    <http://www.k4oah.com>
    >         <http://www.k4oah.com>>
    >         >
    >         >
    >         >
    >         >     Chuck Grandgent wrote:
    >         >     > R4A, S-meter was working OK, just noticed it is not
    >         right now, don't
    >         >     > know for quite how long.
    >         >     >
    >         >     > AVC is working, as evidenced by turning RF gain all
    >         the way down and
    >         >     > then back up, AVC slow takes very noticeably longer
    >         for the RF
    >         >     leve to
    >         >     > return once I turn up RF gain, compared to AVC fast.
    >         >     >
    >         >     > Adjusting R40 and R42 for S-meter and balance have
    >         zero effect,
    >         >     > S-meter is all the way to the left.
    >         >     >
    >         >     > Things to try ?
    >         >     >
    >         >     > Tnx, Chuck, K1OM
    >         >     >
    >         >
    >         >



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