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Garey,

Thanks so much for all of your assistance!

I never thought about removing the tube. I guess that was what was confusing 
me. I've been running the receiver with both the tube and the diodes since I 
acquired it. Hope that didn't damage anything.

I will remove the mod and put it back the way that Drake designed it. I like 
the advantages of the lower noise due to lower B+ voltages, and the delay in 
B+ reaching full voltage. I would expect the delay and lower B+ voltages to 
have a positive effect on the life of the tubes.

Also been thinking about the double pole slide switch for the AVC. If I can't 
find a replacement switch, a small DPDT relay might be the answer. Use the 
existing switch to control the relay and let the relay do the switching. A 
relay with a low current 6.3 VAC coil would be ideal as it could be powered 
from the filament supply.

73,
Darrell


On Thursday 24 July 2008 19:28, Garey Barrell wrote:
> Darrell -
>
> The "mod" has replaced the 6X4 rectifier tube with solid state diodes.
> The tube is serving no purpose and can be left out.  Most likely the
> modifier left the tube out, and the "seller" inserted the tube to keep
> from answering the question "why is this tube socket empty".
>
> There are at least two schools of thought here.  One is that the solid
> state diodes are more efficient (less voltage drop), don't consume
> filament power (and produce attendant heat), and eliminate the need for
> a tube!  The 100 ohm resistor is just to limit the current when those
> "zero drop" diodes with 60 A surge current capabilities see those
> discharged filter caps that look like a short circuit!  On the negative
> side, the resultant B+ is higher than the design was intended to have
> (resulting in additional heat dissipated throughout the receiver).  One
> of the reasons the 2-B (and Collins 75S-x receivers are so quiet is the
> low B+ (reduced thermal noise from the tubes).   Also, the rest of the
> tubes in the receiver are subjected to full B+ before the tubes have any
> chance to warm up and generate the space charge (electron cloud) around
> the cathode to protect it from back bombardment.  There is some evidence
> that this causes the cathode to be damaged, and shortens the life of the
> tube.
>
> Drake and most manufacturers went to solid state rectifiers en masse,
> starting with the R-4, albeit with a lower voltage transformer to
> compensate.  The two diodes were considerably cheaper than a tube and
> socket and filament winding and associated assembly costs, tubes were
> almost all around a dollar, and so nobody cared.  Personally, as long as
> 6X4 tubes are plentiful and available for a buck or two, I'll stick with
> the tube.
>
> 73, Garey - K4OAH
> Glen Allen, VA
>
> Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line & TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
> <www.k4oah.com>
>
> Darrell Bellerive wrote:
> > I have found two mods that have previously done on my 2-B:
> >
> > 1) A second headphone jack has been added to the back panel. It is wired
> > in parallel with the headphone jack at the front. It is wired for
> > connection of an external speaker as it will not break the connection to
> > the normal speaker output. I will simply remove it.
> >
> > 2) A 100 ohm resistor and two solid state diodes have been added in the
> > high voltage section. R55 (470 ohms) was lifted from pin 7 of V10 (6X4
> > power rectifier) and a 100 ohm resistor inserted in between. Two diodes
> > (1N2071A) are attached from the junction of the new 100 ohm resistor and
> > R55 and connect to each of the two plates in V10. The anodes of each of
> > the solid state diodes are attached to the anodes of V10.
> >
> > Attached is a picture showing the high voltage mod. The diagram on the
> > left is the factory schematic, and the diagram on the right show the mod
> > in red.
> >
> > What would have been the purpose of such a mod and should it be reversed?
> >
> > 73, Darrell VA7TO

-- 
Darrell Bellerive
Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA
Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada

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