Chuck -

OK. Might try 'exercising' that trimmer a little and then trying to re-zero against WWV.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

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Chuck Grandgent wrote:
First thing I tried was that C119 cap on the board.
Tweaked it just a little and the calibrator signal "popped in", nice and strong.
Tried putting it back and it pretty much disappeared again.
So I guess depending on environmental parameters it was at a marginal value for sustaining oscillation.

Thanks for all the pointers,

   Chuck, K1OM

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Chuck Grandgent <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Thanks Richard, thanks Garey,  Lots of things to try and check,
    will report back what I find after poking around.

       Chuck


    On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Richard Knoppow
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


        ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Grandgent"
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        Cc: "drakelist" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:52 PM
        Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R4B erratic crystal calibrator


            Yes, C192 was also part of the Hayseed recapping.

            I will check D16.

            The erratic operation (better characterized as failing to
            stay in
            oscillation) was there both before and after the
            recapping, with the same
            modus operandi.

            I do also have a spare 100khz crystal, same form factor, I
            suppose I could
            try that too.

             Chuck, K1OM

            On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Garey Barrell
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Chuck -

                Does Tom's kit include C192?  I think it does.  If not
                ....

                Also D16.

                And with the erratic operation, solder joints on C190,
                etc.  Tough places
                to solder.

                73, Garey - K4OAH
                Glen Allen, VA

                Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-B, C-Line&
                TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
                <www.k4oah.com <http://www.k4oah.com>>

          D-16,  R-158, R-157 C192, C-190, all appear to be part of a
        low voltage supply that feeds the calirator and nothing else.
        Looking at the junction of C-190 and the emitter of Q-9 should
        tell if its working. This is a half-wave rectifier fed by the
        12V filament supply with large filter caps so the DC out of it
        should be more than 6 or 7 volts, anyway, it should be there
        all the time. The calibrator is switched by lifting a ground
        at the source of TIS-34, the oscillator. Its possible the
        function switch is intermittant, maybe not likely but its
        worth cleaning the contacts on S-3 front. I don't remember if
        the transistors in this circuit are in sockets or soldered in,
        if in sockets wiggle them and if soldered it might be worth
        re-flowing the solder. Also, Garey often recommends working
        any screws that are used for grounding. This kind of
        intermittant sounds like a heat problem but even intermittant
        switches can be affected by heat.
           The output of the calibrator is available at the antenna
        input to the receiver and that is  a convenient place to check
        for its presense and for adjusting the calibration. Also, work
        the calibrator adjusting capacitor. I think this is  a very
        unlikely cause but won't hurt anything.


        --
        Richard Knoppow
        Los Angeles
        WB6KBL
        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>




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