----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell Bellerive" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Ten-Tec and Drake Compared


I notice the use of sidetones, and receiver muting does not seem to be commonly used in separate operation on the same frequency. Obviously sidetone would be needed when operating on different transmit and
receive frequencies.

I have often wondered about the lack of sidetone circuits in vintage transmitters. I have always had transcievers and sidetone, so it all
just seems odd to me. :-)

73,
Darrell Bellerive
Amateur Radio Station VA7TO

I think it depends on how vintage. The first Collins 32V transmitters had side tone but it was discontinued in the 32V-3, the reason given was that they could not meet TVI suppression specs with it. I think most of the Johnson transmitters had it. Not sure of others. Side tone is useful if you are transmitting on a different frequency than receiving, common for DX. For other purposes I always monitored in the receiver, there being enough leakage signal so that I could hear my own. There are a lot of curiousities in both receiver and transmitter design and features offered. For instance, Johnson included a speech clipper and filter in the Valliant but Collins never did in the 32V series although they did in the much more expensive 30K and KW-1. It may have been simply a matter of cost. One of the few places where a thorough analysis of design and cost can be found is in the Collins documents for the R-390A. This was probably a much more thorough investigation than was typical for a production product anywhere outside of the telephone company. At some point, in any project, one has to stop trying to make it better and begin to make it or decide that it shouldn't be made at all. In the case of the R-390 the cost of all that investigating was probably absorbed by the government contracts (meaning you the taxpayer), in general, development costs have to be paid for out of profits, if any, on a new product so that when a project is cancelled it can be quite expensive. I don't know that a lot of absolute dogs got into production but at least some did. To me the Hammarlund Pro-310 is the prime example, a very poor receiver however sexy looking, that should never have been approved for production. It would be interesting to know what had happened at Hammarlund that led to this since they seem to have fallen off the edge altogether at about that time.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
[email protected]

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