Yep - re-soldered everything around the gas regulator.  Output looks solid and 
is 11V.  Not sure about the tolerance of the zener inside this particular PTO, 
so I also tried temporarily putting a 10V zener from V+ to GND.  With the 
voltage regulated, the problem persisted.

The thing that's really puzzling me is that the PTO that's currently installed 
was rock-solid in the T-4XB it was in, and I did test the operation (alas, the 
PTO control seemed to be the only function of that transmitter that worked, but 
I digress...).  It's just unlikely (but not impossible) that a 
previously-functioning PTO would suddenly exhibit the same symptoms as the one 
that was replaced.

Tonight's mission will be to power the PTO with a regulated 12V supply.  I will 
test the one in the receiver first, with the remaining receiver power off, then 
on.  If powering it externally does the job, I'll rebuild the regulated supply 
- which does have a diode and a 680k resistor in the cathode circuit.

73,

Steve, W1ES/4

-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Knoppow <[email protected]>
>Sent: Aug 24, 2011 3:30 AM
>To: Steve Wedge <[email protected]>
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Drakelist] I feel like a buzzard...
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Steve Wedge" <[email protected]>
>To: "Ron" <[email protected]>
>Cc: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:43 PM
>Subject: Re: [Drakelist] I feel like a buzzard...
>
>
>completely random.  Gets worse if I tap on it, but then 
>again, I'd expect some reaction when tapping it.  Now, I've 
>got to find some test leads.  I'm going to turn my station 
>supply down to 11V so I can still run the K3 and will power 
>each PTO off this very stiff supply.
>
>It's now obvious to me that it's either the PTO (yeah, both 
>of 'em) or the regulated supply has issues.
>
>Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
>
>    If the PTO works in one transmitter but not the the 
>other that pretty much eliminates it. Have you made 
>comparitive voltage measurements in the two transmitters? 
>Gary said something about the source voltage for the zener 
>being marginal. The zener is fed by R-64 which in turn comes 
>from the regulated 150V buss. The voltage at the other side 
>of R-64 should measure very close to 10V and be very stable. 
>Check it using the scope while keying, it should not change. 
>R-64 is a wire-wound resistor. They are generally quite 
>reliable and do not change due to age or loading. However, 
>if one of the terminals gets flaky it can go up in value. 
>Its worth measuring and should be very close to the marked 
>value. If it has increased or if the solder terminals 
>between it and the zener have developed some resistanct the 
>current drop may be enough so that the zener can not 
>regulate. Tapping on the PTO may cause some shift in 
>frequency simply because things inside move a little. 
>However if tapping produces exactly the same sort of chirp 
>you get from keying it strongly suggests a bad solder joint 
>somewhere in the voltage line to the PTO. Trace this out and 
>poke around at it. But, check the voltage at the zener end 
>of R-64 to see what is happening there.
>
>
>--
>Richard Knoppow
>Los Angeles
>WB6KBL
>[email protected] 
>


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