--- Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Notice that the DRI drivers don't do anything like
> mode setting and
> such, they depend on the X drivers for that. So if
> you take away the X
> driver, you will not be able to get anything
> outputed on your monitor.
> Unless you use the fbdev drivers for example.

It would be simple to lift the mode setting and
hardware identification code out of the fb drivers and
add it to the DRM kernel driver.  If you were still
using the 2D drivers the new code in DRM would just be
ignored. 

> Did you investigate the Berlin project, which, if i
> am not wrong, uses
> OpenGL for drawing, and aims to be a X
> reemplacement. Not that it is
> anything near that point though.

I'm not really looking for an X alternative.  I was
just thinking about how to improve X over the next
five to ten years. Both the Mac and Windows Longhorn
are using new 3D enabled GUIs. This is more of a
response to these new GUIs.

The goal would be to slowly transform the guts of X
into something designed for 3D hardware instead of
what we have now. This would be done such that no
existing X apps would notice the changes.  Moore's law
means that everyone is going to have super 3D hardware
in a couple of years.

Without starting starting to think about 3D now, what
will Linux's response to Longhorn be when it ships in
a year or two?

=====
Jon Smirl
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