On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 08:00:59AM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > So? My sister still uses a P120, and is happy with it. Why should she be > > > forced to upgrade? > > I think that is a bit petty really, please try and keep this > discussion some way in the bounds of logic, at some point you have to > throw away older systems, X works on these systems now, we want to build a > new version of X that works on top of newer cards using features of these > cards, the older systems can still use X as they do now however > development will slow on XAA drivers and newer applications will use newer > features stopping them from working on the older systems... > > Just because we develop a new graphics sub-system, it doesn't mean you > have to run it, I belive there is space (if we merge fbdev functionality > into the drm) to build an XAA Xserver on top of it using the drm to do the > mode setting card resetting, pci access and any locking, it just won't run > 3D apps, it can still run X/GNOME etc..
I just do not see the world that Jon envisions, in which old hardware has simply vanished. I know it hasn't, because there are many machines around me - and my friends, and family, and everyone I know - which are simply incapable of running it. Just because 'the competition'[0] is locking older hardware out, doesn't mean we should, too. I'm all for this new infrastructure which allows us to harness the full power of cards which still cost a reasonable amount in $au (I still own a rv250), but surely there must be some sort of fallback for those of us who are still to get with the program, realise that hardware is cheap, and throw a month's rent at a new computer[1]. :) d, stuck in the technology stone-age[2] [0]: While we're at it, 'us' vs. 'them/you' is petty and unconstructive. [1]: You'd be lucky to include a r3xx in a $au800-$au1k machine. [2]: Communicating with you by the graces of a 56k modem. -- Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> freedesktop.org: powering your desktop http://www.freedesktop.org
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