Jim Starkey wrote:
Jobin Augustine wrote:
it appears that you hard core hackers never uses IDEs.
anybody using them ?
It all depends on what you call hard core hackers.
Originally, hard core hackers were the guys that trampled the cutting
edge of technology with audacity. They pushed the limits and weren't
afraid to experiment. They developed OSes like Tenex and Unix,
eschewing assembler in favor of high level languages, even when they had
to invent the language to so. These hard core hackers were willing to
try anything that appeared on the scene -- objects, exception handling,
formal interfaces, and, yes, IDEs. The the stuff that worked got used
and the stuff that didn't got left behind (Objective C, anyone? Ada?).
If you mean the contemporary definition of hard core hacker -- arrested
development adolescents -- then no, they're content to use the first
rock they picked up to bang on other rocks, and are content to use vi
and line mode debuggers and are perfectly happy to reset the same damn
breakpoints after every build. They also think that an 800 lines of
nested flag testing is the very pinnacle of software engineering. These
are the guys who can take three years and hundreds of man years to put
out a maintenance release with more bugs than when it started without
asking what went wrong...
I can't fathom why some troglodytes are so proud of the ignorance of
Windows that they're unwilling to even try a different development
technology.
Oh, well. At least it keeps these people from creating new products.
I sincerely hope you weren't referring to me or anyone in the Drizzle
contributor community in the above statements. We try on this mailing
list to keep the humour above the belt.
-jay
p.s. For the record, I was a software developer using Windows platforms
for years before I began using and developing open source software.
And, yes, I used VisualStudio and other IDEs when I did so. That said,
I am more productive and efficient, not to mention more knowledgeable
about the underpinnings of software, now that I do not use an IDE and
instead use the tools of the GNU toolchain and vim. But, this is my own
personal opinion of my productivity. Everyone makes there own choices
about what tools make them most productive, and there's nothing wrong
with that at all.
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