Hi! On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 09:17:04AM -0800, Monty Taylor wrote: > >> Jim Starkey wrote: > >>> I can't fathom why some troglodytes are so proud of the ignorance of > >>> Windows that they're unwilling to even try a different development > >>> technology. > >>> > >>> Oh, well. At least it keeps these people from creating new products. > >> > >> I sincerely hope you weren't referring to me or anyone in the Drizzle > >> contributor community in the above statements. We try on this mailing > >> list to keep the humour above the belt.
++ Let's keep it positive. :) > > No, I wasn't referring to drizzle, I was referring to MySQL. But still, > > drizzle remains, by choice, in the dark ages. I continue to be > > astonished that people care more about line length than reducing the > > amount of spaghetti code by encapsulating things like values and > > exceptions and recognizing that "plug-ins" that have to be not only > > compiled on the code base, but compiled with the code base are worthy of > > the name. > > I'm not sure it's fair to say we care _more_ about line length. We spend > enormous amounts of time reducing spaghetti code by encapsulating > things. I've been actively working on out-of-tree plugins and should > have the last little bit of that done this week in fact. > > We do care, however, about line length and other code-style issues, > because when there is more than one developer working on a codebase, > some of those things need to be actually discussed out loud. (you know - > because none of us intrinsically agree and the decisions are arbitrary > anyway, so they need to be made out loud) Yes, as insignificant as it is, asking such questions helps provide some consistency to make the code base accessible to more people. We don't spend hardly any time on these sorts of issues, but it helps spending 3 minutes on the mailing list once in a while to agree on such things to make code cleaner for folks, and also makes code reviews faster. > > Drizzle has been slightly successful in reducing complexity > > by shedding badly designed components, but has been seemingly unwilling > > to take on the more important issues of modularization, encapsulation, > > streamlining of execution phase, etc. > > I'm not sure which Drizzle you're talking about here, but it's obviously > not the code base I'm working on. Not only are we not unwilling to work > on that, a good amount of active progress has been made and continues to > be made. You may remember that spaghetti code you mentioned earlier... Yeah, Monty has done a lot of great work in this area, and someday in the near future we'll have the modularity you mention. -Eric _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
