On 3 August 2010 22:03, Richard Rodgers <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Sean:
>
> See comments below - but I think you now have a correct understanding..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard
> On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Sean Carte [email protected] wrote:
>
>> On 26 July 2010 14:30, Hilton Gibson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Sean
>>>
>>> From what I understand the "lift-date" is calculated from the terms set.
>>> See: http://www.dspace.org/1_6_2Documentation/ch05.html#N13421
>>> I think the terms can be input as 1 year, 6 months, 1 month from submit
>>> date.
>>> Maybe thats how it works.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> hg
>>
>> 2010/7/26 Claudia Jürgen <[email protected]>:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> the default setter understands only a date string or the (configurable)
>>> term "forever". You can implement your own setter to use other terms,
>>> e.g. to calculate the lift date based on time spans, for more details
>>> see section:
>>> 5.2.17.2. Extending Embargo Functionality
>>> of the documentation.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps
>>>
>>> Claudia Jürgen
>>
>>
>> Thanks Hilton and Claudia
>>
>> I had misunderstood the purpose of embargo.field.terms.
>>
>> So I should use this field to set the date on which I want the embargo
>> lifted, alternatively I could enter a duration in it?
>
> Yes - whatever metadata field is configured for the terms is what the system 
> looks at - but what *values* are permitted in that field depends on the
> 'setter' code being used. That is also configurable in dspace.cfg (property 
> is plugin.....EmbargoSetter). The default setter 
> (org.dspace.embargo.DefaultEmbargoSetter)
> understands only a literal date - and trivially copies it into whatever field 
> is configured for the liftDate. If those fields are the same, it does exactly 
> nothing.
> However, if you change the setter to 
> org.dspace.embargo.DayTableEmbargoSetter, then you can enter a word or phrase 
> that maps to a fixed number of days
> e..g "30 days" would cause the setter to assign the lift date to be 30 days 
> after the item is installed. You configure your 'table of days' in dspace.cfg 
> also
> (see documentation).
>
> If you need any other behavior, you will need to write a custom setter. I can 
> certainly help/advise if needed.
>
>>
>> And I should not use embargo.field.lift in my submission form as this
>> value gets calculated from what is entered into embargo.field.terms?
>
> Correct don't use it - *unless* it happens to be the same as the terms field 
> (in which case you really are using the terms field, it just happens to 
> coincide)
>>
>> So I suppose I could simply use this in my input form:
>>
>>       <field>
>>         <dc-schema>dc</dc-schema>
>>         <dc-element>rights</dc-element>
>>         <dc-qualifier></dc-qualifier>
>>         <repeatable>false</repeatable>
>>         <label>Embargo Lift Date</label>
>>         <input-type>date</input-type>
>>         <hint> If applicable, enter the date that the embargo can be
>> lifted.</hint>
>>         <required></required>
>>       </field>
>>
>> With this in dspace.cfg:
>>
>> embargo.field.terms = dc.rights
>> embargo.field.lift = dc.date
>
> Yes, this is fine
>>
>>
>> I suppose that's what this was trying to tell me:
>> "
>> Do not place the field for 'lift date' in submission screens. This can
>> potentially confuse submitters because they may feel that they can
>> directly assign values to it. As noted in the life-cycle above, this
>> is erroneous: the lift date gets assigned by the embargo system based
>> on the terms. Any pre-existing value will be over-written. But see
>> next recommendation for an exception.
>> "
>>
>> But then:
>> "
>> As the life-cycle discussion above makes clear, after the terms are
>> applied, that field is no longer actionable in the embargo system.
>> Conversely, the 'lift date' field is not actionable *until* the
>> application. Thus you may want to consider configuring both the
>> 'terms' and 'lift date' to use the same metadata field. In this way,
>> during workflow you would see only the terms, and after item
>> installation, only the lift date. If you wish the metadata to retain
>> the terms for any reason, use two distinct fields instead.
>> "
>>
>> This seems to suggest I could have the following in dspace.cfg:
>>
>> embargo.field.terms = dc.rights
>> embargo.field.lift = dc.rights
>>
>> ... with only dc.rights in my input form?
>>
>> Does that sound about right? (From my testing it does seem to work.)
>
> Yes, this is OK as well. The real question is whether you want to persist the 
> terms over time: if you use a single field, then the terms will be obliterated
> once the lift date is calculated. That is, you won't (after the item is 
> installed) be able to say 'this was a 6 month embargo', all you will see is 
> the lift date.
> But if all you are entering are lift dates as terms, then it is somewhat 
> wasteful to use 2 distinct metadata fields to hold the same value.
> Does this make sense?

Perfectly!

Thanks Richard.

Sean
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