On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:42:31 +0200 (CEST), "Imposit.com - webmaster" <webmas...@imposit.com> wrote: > | > | So why risking to confuse them with something new, with which they > | could > | with high confidence shoot in their own foot? > > Some people would say just for fun, lean back and watch the show and get > fees from spammer lol > No really i unsterstand you complete (i did the hole time) > Ha, ha!
> | Don't just take inbound mail. If you have the possibility then take > | outbound too. > ah ja good idea true... > The chance to get there higher quality HAM messages is much, much higher then on the Inbound. And if you use a merged group or a global group then TURN OFF whitelisting on that group/user! This is important! And TURN OFF RBL lookups in DSPAM for that group/user! And TURN OFF training buffer on that group/user! And if you can then use 'naïve' while training the global group. This will lead to MORE errors but while you do the training YOU WANT ERRORS. You need them since errors = re-training = good for the quality of the merged group. Later in production use whatever algorithm you like. You could use there naïve too. It is up to you. Just expect more re-training if using naïve. > > | DSPAM is not going to be the reason for lost mail, since DSPAM does > | not block but only filter/tag. > > we use the quarantine, some user get about 1k and more quarantined mails a > DAY (belive it or not) > I do. I believe you. > (thank god for spamtraps on userwebsited on these accounts.. helps to get > rid of almost all of them out of the box) > so as you can see the mails ARE LOST.. lost in space.. i mean they are > there but noone -really noone honestly searches their quarantines anymore > its there only i case some user know what to look for and for legal issues > (its a bit touchy here in austria delete users mail) > so quarantine gets purged of 14 day old mails and even then some users > have constant 60k mails in there (only last 14 days) > > > > | Do you clean that beast? You should! > of course, purging every day by cron > With the purge script? The purge script is skipping TOE and doing some other shortening. You should look if your merged group is running on TOE? What is the oldest entry you got in the merged group? I mean what date or how old is it in days compared to todays date? > | How have you trained that merged group? With TEFT? TOE? What have you > | trained? > tone, > I doubt it is TONE. Probably TOE but TONE? Really? > a common set of spam ham. but ife to be carefully since my users are > so different i cant do to much global > > And in each round I have dropped older data from two or > > | three > | rounds before. That has helped me to amplify my tokens and purge the low > | signal tokens and therefore keeping my dataset small and compact. > > ah i see good idea, no boosting is clear... i read a lot about the > background of dspam... i jsut didnt read the constrians statement bevore > ...(im still very very emberrased about that:-) > Easy. Don't break your head about nothing. > maybe a reason for the big db is a lot of spamtraps feeding > This is the beauty of my TONE script. I practically CAN NOT over-learn. This is very good for me as I like to set systems up and then wire them together and then only needing to invest minimal maintenance time. I like to automate as much as possible but not more as needed. > different > user/usergroups individual > i cant use the traps globally, for this the usersmail is way to different > > the size of the db isnt that big concern. everything runs fast and smooth > anyway - i was just interrested to get some values to mine to compare > and its way not the biggest db on my boxes... (one users stores documents > in his db, currently we are at 200 gig lol) > LOL. So you use the DB backend for mail storing too? I have btw all my business mail since I think 1991 or 1992 in DB. Everything including attachments and I don't know what else... -- Kind Regards from Switzerland, Stevan Bajić ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm _______________________________________________ Dspam-devel mailing list Dspam-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspam-devel
