Hi,

I deleted the following tokents.
dspam=# SELECT count(*) from dspam_token_data  where spam_hits < 10
and innocent_hits < 10 ;
  count
---------
 6391545
(1 row)

dspam=# DELETE FROM dspam_token_data  where spam_hits < 10 and
innocent_hits < 10 ;

dspam=# VACUUM FULL VERBOSE ANALYZE ;
dspam=# REINDEX TABLE dspam_token_data;

Now total tokens are around 680K and database size 70MB.
Now dspam process the mail around 0.05- 0.1 seconds.
I will continue to monitor spam/FP rate.
But still I need your help about CLUSTER configuration on the table.


Thanks.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Ibrahim Harrani
<ibrahim.harr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Kenneth,
>
>> Okay. I think that at the very least you will need to purge the
>> unuseful tokens from your training corpus. All of the tokens with
>> nearly equal ham/spam counts as well as the tokens with a very
>> small ham/spam count.
>
> Is there any way to purge unuseful tokens without deleting everything
> and start from scratch?
> Why dspam  does not purge them automatically?
> I also trained spamassassin with the same corpus. spamd handles all
> those staffs.
>
> I purge the database with the following purge sql shipped by dspam.
> Should I use also dspam_clean?
>
> /* $Id: purge.sql,v 1.52 2010/04/21 11:30:39 sbajic Exp $ */
>
> START TRANSACTION;
> DELETE FROM dspam_token_data
>  WHERE (innocent_hits*2) + spam_hits < 5
>  AND last_hit < CURRENT_DATE - 30;
> COMMIT;
>
> START TRANSACTION;
> DELETE FROM dspam_token_data
>  WHERE ((innocent_hits=1 AND spam_hits=0) OR (innocent_hits=0 AND 
> spam_hits=1))
>  AND last_hit < CURRENT_DATE - 15;
> COMMIT;
>
> START TRANSACTION;
> DELETE FROM dspam_token_data
>  WHERE last_hit < CURRENT_DATE - 90;
> COMMIT;
>
> START TRANSACTION;
> DELETE FROM dspam_signature_data
>  WHERE created_on < CURRENT_DATE - 14;
> COMMIT;
>
> VACUUM ANALYSE dspam_token_data;
> VACUUM ANALYSE dspam_signature_data;
>
> REINDEX TABLE dspam_token_data;
>
> REINDEX TABLE dspam_signature_data;
>
>> How did you change the fillfactor? You would need to do an alter
>> table followed by a cluster to rewrite the table and include the
>> freespace required by the fillfactor. Is that how you performed
>> that operation. You could also do a full copy to a new table with
>> the correct fillfactor.
>
> I simply issued
> ALTER TABLE dspam_token_data SET ( FILLFACTOR = 90 );
> But I did not make a fully copy on the table.
> Can you give me an example how to issue cluster on the table?
>
>> One other thing to try would be to use Markov/OSB instead of CHAIN.
>> OSB generates a few more tokens than CHAIN, but it is much more
>> accurate and so you will need fewer tokens to actually identify the
>> ham/spam. Then, instead of simply loading all of your messages at
>> once, load them incrementally and only train if the existing corpus
>> fails to correctly identify the message.
>
> Is there any way to do this type of training automatically?
> If I train the dspam mail by mail. This will take hour/days?
>
> I will try Markov/ISB. I guess I have to delete old tokes and train dspam 
> again.
> What is the recommended value for ham/spam training. Does 10K spam 10ham 
> enough?
>> Using something like iostat while you are processing should give
>> you an idea of whether you are I/O bound or not.
>>
>> And lastly, make certain that you have "synchronous_commit = off"
>> in your postgresql.conf file.
> Yes
>
>> Cheers,
>> Ken
>>
>

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