Fran Miele wrote: > This is NOT good!! If we can't reply and they forget to "FLUSH" as you call > it, we can't stop of their conversation on our system. Maybe the > communication between them and us should not be allowed until the issues are > resolved so we can get back to them easily. This was a big problem his > morning, as our commuters were trying to communicate and JA7NJN was holding > a conversation in Japanese. The locals couldn't use our system.
This is normal for a source-routed system. You had the following choices: - Ignore him for a while, it'll stop eventually. - Someone put in his repeater callsign and tell him what's happening. - Someone log into your Gateway and blacklist his callsign or the callsign of the Japanese system he's coming from temporarily. Kinda in order from least effort, to "overdone". The problem you're describing can happen here in the U.S. just as easily, it isn't just the Japanese systems. Many of us have heard it when someone forgets to switch back to "CQCQCQ". > Don't get me wrong. I'm all for international communication, and I > personally enjoy it, when it works. I really don't see too many users > quickly programming their radios to reply to a call from Japan. I for one > cannot program mine manually without the software and while driving or out > in the yard on a handheld I don't see it happening at all. It's just a limitation of the system. Source-routing will always have mis-routed calls going where someone may or may not be bothered by them. Being practiced and quick at spinning in a callsign so you can communicate with the person causing the trouble is pretty much a system requirement for anyone "annoyed" by misplaced source-routes. > It wouldn't have been a problem if he had remembered to "flush" and > hopefully it doesn't keep occurring. It will, both from Japan and in the U.S. -- it's the way the system's designed. Users have to be aware enough to notice their repeater is sending back "UR?" to them and not "RPT?" ... when they see that, they're routing somewhere... and if they're not INTENDING to be routing somewhere, the "UR?" is a sign that something's wrong in their rig setup. That's too subtle for a lot of operators. So we'll continue to see this once in a while. Pray for smart people to use the system, is about all an admin can do. Unless they use the "nuclear" option and blacklist a callsign -- even if only for a while, that works too. D-STAR puts the power to screw up, directly in the user's hands. Powerful systems often do. Nate WY0X
