I say, the more OPEN SOURCE TRUST servers the better.

I have talked to people in Europe and Canada and they want their 
own ICOM TRUST servers.   

I am talking to Canadian dstar repeater owners.
They will also set their own ICOM TRUST server soon.

This back and forth
of data from each country to another country adds
to waste of resouces and bandwidth.
Especially when one's country Amateur laws/policies/regulations  differ from 
the US Amateur laws/policies/regulations and so on.

More dstar repeaters are coming online in the EU trust.

I am sure other Continents or Countries will do the same.
It is inescapable.

Scott

--- In [email protected], "dlake02" <dl...@...> wrote:
>
> Scott
> 
> There is no "European" Trust server !
> 
> There is one trust server because Icom only allow one in an entire network.  
> That is the K5TIT trust server.
> 
> There are small pockets of isolated groups in Germany that are running a 
> handful of repeaters, but these are no good to man-nor-beast as they are not 
> connected to the vast majority of other D-Star repeaters in Europe, a 
> continent in which I live !
> 
> These disconnected pockets will breed yet another overlay network - we have 
> far too many already, IMHO.
> 
> 73 David - G4ULF
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "ham44865" <ham44865@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > There are 4 European ICOM TRUST servers.
> > You would need permission with them to register your
> > home-made "ICOM compatible" G2 Gateway, same thing with the US.
> > 
> > I also have instructions on how to create a NEW ICOM 
> > TRUST server. They have created their own ICOM TRUST server,
> > just like K5TIT did.
> > 
> > They are pretty active witrh their ICOM TRUST server
> > and they allow registration from anyone that wants to learn.
> > I do not believe that they would deny you registration
> > if you asked them. 
> > The Europeans TRUST server groups are very friendly.
> > 
> > My dstar "ICOM compatible" G2 Gateway KJ4NHF 
> > went live with the European TRUST server a couple of weeks ago.
> > 
> > Scott/KI4LKF
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "dlake02" <dlake@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Scott 
> > > 
> > > Congratulations on your progress.
> > > 
> > > Last night, I had a conversation via the GB7NM with G3SMU from GB7MH - 
> > > totally G2 routed on the live G2 network.
> > > 
> > > I would be interested if you could G2 route from your software to my 
> > > callsign via the G2 network ?  I was last seen on GB7MH, and am there 
> > > most of the time.
> > > 
> > > I'm a little confused by your comment about FOUR trust servers - there is 
> > > only ONE trust server outside of Japan, because the system as supplied by 
> > > Icom does not allow for multiple levels of trust. 
> > > 
> > > The whole point of G2 callsign routing is that EVERY node is accessible 
> > > to the Trust Server.  
> > > 
> > > The alternative is disconnected pockets of D-Star - that would be very 
> > > confusing to users, where they have a local D-Star repeater on a 
> > > different network, hence unable to reach their contact.
> > > 
> > > I had experience of this on the Dutch/German border recently - there are 
> > > a series of "linked" D-Star repeaters on their own network, and I was 
> > > unable to reach anyone in the UK on the USRoot Trust Server !  But the 
> > > only indication you get is a RPT? back when you try and call someone that 
> > > you had previously worked on the main G2 network. 
> > > 
> > > That is certainly not what I want - that is why 99% of my project has 
> > > been to ensure that I have compatibility and interoperability with the 
> > > de-facto network and the trust of those that are kind enough to run it on 
> > > behalf of the whole Amateur community. 
> > > 
> > > 73 David - G4ULF
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "ham44865" <ham44865@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It was accepted by FOUR(4) ICOM TRUST servers, so far.
> > > > 
> > > > Scott.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "john_ke5c" <ke5c@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "ham44865" <ham44865@> wrote:
> > > > > > dstar_gwy_srv can be used on any DSTAR ICOM system,
> > > > > > Europe,US, Japan,...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It is idependent of any "backbone",if there is such a word
> > > > > > backbone when it comes to dstar.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I believe you mean dstar TRUST groups, not "backbone".
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is your software accepted by ICOM for use on their (and our) backbone?
> > > > > 
> > > > > But I have to agree with Aro, it wasn't the "first".
> > > > > 
> > > > > 73 -- John
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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