So, come up with a plan.

By the time that you add 2 digits country, 2 digits state, 4 digits city, 1-2 
digits repeater in city identifier, 1 digit for module, well, you ran out of 
display a few characters back.

It's *easy* to sit back and debate the solution. It's *hard* to sit down and 
make one work worldwide.

There's the standard memory display, which should probably include a letter to 
indicate if it is a Linking, Unlink, or Echotest memory.

And then you need to figure out the labels used in the Repeater mode of the new 
radios.

Ed

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Pete
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Simplify Abbreviations for Alpha Tags


Hi Ed and all...
True enough CA may be California or Canada.  BUT National geographic 
designation is not specified, or else the prefix code could be US or CA.  In 
that case, position eliminates the ambiguity.  For "state" subdivisions, 
Canadian provinces are used, i.e., PQ, BC, NB, etc.  I don't recall a conflict 
in that case.  National qualifiers are nice to have but not essential, and the 
tag size is limited.  The modified CLLI method works but assumes you know the 
cities and codes of surrounding areas.  I find the four character city code 
mnemonics easier to recognize that the more cryptic FAA airport identifiers as 
well.

My goal was to organize geographically and alphabetically.  I use a spreadsheet 
or database to organize the info and generate a table for the rig memory 
manager program.  Some other additions I could wish for (given more tag space) 
would be county, region, or segment of journey mapped to a travel route.   In 
some instances, given repeater coverage, counties may be a better choice than 
city.  On the road, cities and towns are more frequently signed, so I opted out 
of the county idea.  Even better, a "smart" radio might be able to store a 
repeater database and allow the user to select as desired or track with a GPS.  
Some online resources include repeater lat/lon, so this idea is feasible.

FYI, I am not using all the tag space, so the user can add one, two or more 
qualifiers if the rig permits.  And YES, I agree 100%, call sign would be a 
great "entity" qualifier along with band or frequency, but it does not help 
sorting out the repeaters that serve a given geographical area.  Sometimes a 
callsign is used on several repeaters, different bands, different locations.

Hope that helps.  Happy trails es 73 to all de Pete WG2J

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Woodrick, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Simplify Abreviations for Alpha Tags

  As far as I know, there's only one basic convention where you don't end up 
with a bunch of exceptions.
 CALLSIGN
 Even Pete's modified CLLI code has issues, CA is both a state and a country.
 ZIP Codes can come close, except that no one knows what 23324 is.
Airport codes can sometime work, but we've got a couple of repeaters whose 
closest airport is the same one. And LZU or 1AB aren't necessarily readily 
recognizable as well.
 If anyone figures anything out, please let me know. I'd definitely like to 
have something else in the Repeater Listings for the new radios at 
http://www.dstarinfo.com/repeaters/repeaters.htm
 Ed WA4YIH
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