While I have strong opinions about personal rights and society's
needs, particularly as relates to both HOAs and the way this country
provides healthcare -- this topic should be moved off list.
(And what is being proposed in the US is not Socialized medicine, the
UK has socialized medicine, read government owned and operated -- we
are about the only developed country that doesn't provide universal
healthcare and there are a lot of models, not just the socialized
medicine of the UK which the insurance companies have used as their
boogie man. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_healthcare to
see the various approaches -- if you want to discuss off list, please
email me directly.)
On Jan 20, 2010, at 3:16 PM, David Holman wrote:
Hey Barry,
Actually they did. The first freedom they took was your freedom of
choice. And in some areas, its not a choice of living in an HOA
controlled commune or not, its a choice of which one is worse, which
is no choice. If you don't want to live in a commune, you have to
move ridiculously far away (like here). We chose the school
district. To live in the school district, we have to live in an HOA
controlled commune. I didn't choose to join the HOA, I chose the
house. HOAs are NOT voluntary membership organizations. The HOA
was forced on me. They didn't give me a choice about whether or not
I wanted to join. They took my freedom of choice. And until
everyone starts to see it this way, we will continue to loose our
rights daily. It is NOT OK, customary, normal or acceptable to take
individual rights and freedoms, for any reason outside of the fact
that a person has proven they can't handle them. You moved into a
non-commune area, but you didn't give up any rights. You don't have
the right to tell your neighbor anything about how to run his life,
in the first place. If it is not health or safety related or
somehow interacts with you, you have no right to force any your
beliefs on your neighbor (what is pretty or aesthetically pleasing
is a belief). If you are afraid of your neighbors, I would suggest
moving into an apartment where the property owner does have the
right to tell the residents what they can and can't do on his
property. Become friends with the property owner.
73
David, AC7DS
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