Well said!
I'm not sure what you are supposed to do if you operate using a Dongle, is the suggestion that you should ignore any other dongle users that might pop up? Just because someone has a view it's NOT Amateur Radio? If two dongle users are having a QSO on a repeater/reflector the opportunity exists for the RF users to join in, so why not do so? It's the wrong question in my opinion, I would suggest that a more accurate question (UK perspective) would be, despite the number of DStar radios/Dongles sold to Amateurs, why do they not use them? Why do they sit and listen only, rather than put a call out and generate some activity? Why will they only speak with people they know personally, rather than answer a station they don't know but has been calling with no reply. And finally, once the results of this current poll are determined, what will it have achieved? Probably just to polarise opinion even further perhaps? Some people only have a Dongle as an option perhaps. It's more likely this sort of "politics" that has an adverse impact on this hobby rather then the fact two stations are using Dongles to have a QSO. Pick up your mic./Dongle/whatever and put a call out - it's all Ham Radio. Dex. M0TMX From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J. Moen Sent: 27 March 2010 07:36 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio? I'd love to see a poll on whether anyone cares whether DV to DV Dongle is amateur radio. I happen to agree that a "QSO" -- or "Ham Radio" as has been stated here - must involve RF. I was born in 1944, and in back in the 50s, everything we Hams did involved RF. So if I use my DStar HT to talk to a DStar repeater linked to a reflector, and talk to someone else on an HT, or mobile, whose repeater is linked to the same reflector, and I'm in California and the other is in Australia, is that DX? Not in my book. Did I enjoy the conversation? Yes. Do I care whether it's Ham Radio? No. Now, let's say my end is Dongle to reflector. Is it DX? No. Is it Ham Radio? Well, probably, but who cares? Now. if the other end is also Dongle, is it Ham Radio? No. Does it matter. Not to me. This is a hobby. I am not looking for ways to ignore other people, or put them down. I am looking to enrich my life, maybe help someone else and have some fun while I'm on this planet. I just don't understand the question -- is it Ham Radio? It's the wrong question. Are you enjoying yourself? Did you learn something talking to that other human being? Those are more interesting questions. Jim - K6JM ----- Original Message ----- From: john_ke5c <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:34 PM Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio? --- In [email protected], Gary Pearce KN4AQ <kn...@...> wrote: > > At 04:27 AM 3/26/2010, Jack wrote: > >The question is, is dongle to dongle amateur radio? > > > >I say no. If there is no RF involved, its internet chat. > > > Is a club meeting Amateur Radio. Is a hamfest? > > 73, > Gary KN4AQ The poll question is whether dv dongle use constitutes an amateur radio QSO, not whether it constitutes an amateur radio activity. Hope that helps. 73 -- John
