Nate,

Please get your fact straights before spreading FUD.

D-PLUS was created before the DVDongle. D-PLUS is NOT REQUIRED for a D-STAR 
repeater, or one that is connected to the Trust Server. Again, DPLUS IS NOT 
REQUIRED! Of course not installing it would probably be foolhardy as linking is 
pretty much a way of life for may repeaters.

People refusing to learn callsign routing IS NOT THE ONLY REASON. I know how to 
do it (after all, I kinda wrote the book).  But I don't like its 
implementation. I don't use it. I think that it is a relatively ill-conceived 
function that was only half-heatedly though through. I believe that you also 
may be making a mistake to believe that Icom's gateway implementation is the 
way that it was intended to be utilized.

I can with good conscious, state that without DPLUS, DSTAR would probably have 
died. Or at least be at significantly lower levels of penetration than today. A 
LOT of people enjoy listening to REF001C and the nets. A lot of grant money has 
been spent with the capability to link repeaters pretty much a requirement.

By the way, what have you done for D-STAR today?

Ed



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing



Over here, D-PLUS is virtually a requirement so a private company can sell and 
offer DV-Dongle... gateway operators don't really get a choice as to whether or 
not they want that particular add-on. And I'm not saying it isn't useful... it 
is... but I'd almost wish people HAD to learn the Icom way FIRST so they FULLY 
understand how the system was DESIGNED to work, prior to getting the keys to 
drive the D-PLUS links...

THE ONLY REASON you find callsign routing "a problem" is because people refuse 
to learn it. Anyone that understands it, can deal with it... including hitting 
their One-Touch button to route back to the "interloper" and tell them what's 
happening.

Trying to treat D-STAR like it wasn't source-routed and adding software to make 
it act like an analog system, is what got us to this so-called "problem" in the 
first place, not the other way around.

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
[email protected]<mailto:nate%40natetech.com>

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