I have to agree with you about the current cost of D-Star radios.  But there 
are some ways around this.  People can have a lot of fun with the DV Dongle, 
connecting in via DPlus to a huge variety of D-Star repeaters and reflectors.  
The Dongle, as I recall is about US $200.  Next, there are some projects 
underway to homebrew add-on boards to analog radios (one is already on the 
market, but it's expensive -- I suspect the ones under development will cost 
relatively less).  Finally, I am hearing rumors that one of the amateur radio 
manufacturers (not considered a major manufacturer but a good one nonetheless) 
is planning to sell a D-Star radio in the future.  I suspect if it's priced 
right, it will sell like hotcakes.

Regarding complexity, it's been my experience to ask new D-Star users to please 
NOT read the part in the manual that talks about callsign routing, zones, etc.  
Just make sure they get programming software and show them a few simple 
examples of DPlus linking and unlinking.  They will have no problems getting up 
to speed and start having fun on D-Star.  Then, later, if they are curious, 
they can learn about the wonderfulness of callsign routing and all the rest.

With the cost of non-ICOM D-Star repeaters coming way, way down, I don't think 
clubs will have any significant incremental cost of a D-Star repeater over an 
analog FM repeater.

   Jim - K6JM

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: The Latino Ham _Not Spam 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

  My two Cents on the D-star Drama.  The problem here is not the technology 
itself.  The problem with Dstar is that radios are so expensive. On one hand 
you have ham clubs that can dishout the money to put up a wonderful dstar 
repeater but in the other hand you have hams that can afford an analogue radio 
and they feel like they are being left out not to mention the complexity of 
operating a dstar radio. As far as radio frequency pairs are concerned, I 
believe that if a radio club wants to put a dstar repeater in their area, they 
should take down an analogue pair that they have in use and use for dstar. STOP 
HOGGING UP THE SPECTRUM, It is only fair. 2M and 73cm are already crowded as it 
is. I dont think hams are afraid of change, It is about the money that has to 
be dished out buy a radio to get out on the 2/73/220Mhz bands. We all know how 
expensive it is to maintain an analogue repeater now think about how much it is 
going to cost to maintain a digital repeater. I can assure you that membership 
fees are going to go up and then what? Uncle Sam is not going to give grants 
without something in return so  go figure.
   Echolink is software that complements a repeater system, echoirlp costs are 
not that bad compared to a DV dongle or the highspeed dstar gateway.  I for one 
 do not  oppose change, I just choose to ignore the dstar hype.

  KILO_INDIA-SIX_ELE_ENE_EQUIS!
  73'S
  HASTA LA PROXIMA

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