> As for messing around where you oughtn't, Mac users do tend in the
> habit of reformatting drives WAY too often. It's almost never
> necessary to do a low-level format of a drive, and barely ever
> necessary even to erase a filesystem. It's just one of those
> wave-a-chicken cures that people resort to, like rebuilding the
> Desktop database or zapping the PRAM without really checking out what
> the problem is. If I wanted to reformat and reinstall to fix every
> problem I'd be running Windows. ;)  I do understand why you wanted to
> do this with a drive you'd bought used, but I wouldn't have bothered
> (or if I did I'd be sure to use the FWB tool and keep the grown
> defect list).
> 
> --
> Marc Sira             

Thanks Marc for the very useful and informative explanation. My problem
at this point is that the duo hangs (endlessly spinning cursor) whenever
the SCSI bus is scanned looking for the drive. I CAN start the duo in
the dock (with the dock's drive) but the new drive won't mount (show up
on desktop). Then I can use FWB Toolkit "WorldControl" to STOP the drive
from spinning (I can hear this) and to START it spinning. But if I use
HDSC setup or FWB Toolkit's HD Primer or "SuperSpot" (HD formatter) the
computer hangs (as mentioned above) as soon as any of these programs
scans the SCSI bus looking for the available drives.

After rebooting again, I can STOP the drive with FWB's WorldControl,
then use "Mt. Everything" and it sees the drive but says it's NOT READY
(presumable because it is stopped). Then I tell Mt. Everything to use
it's own driver, NOT the disks driver. Then I click on MOUNT and the
drive spins up but then the computer hangs.

It just seems that whenever the computer tries to scan the SCSI bus of
this little 80M drive it goes into a endless loop or a "wait" state or
something. The cursor has a spinning ball or wristwatch (depending on
the program being used) which the mouse will still move, but nothing
happens. No head rattling (seeking motions) of either the drive in
question or the drive that is running the machine. It requires a
command-option-esc to Force Quit and then the computer freezes and
requires a REstart. It just seems that the computer is looking for
something to happen on the drive that never happens, i.e. waiting for a
pin to go high or low so it can begin.

This little 80 meg HD is not terribly valuable even if it did work, but
it is the third drive I have messed with (over many months) that seems
to work at first but after my efforts to reformat, eventually gets to
the point it can't even be mounted, to do anything at all with.

What are the "magic words" or keystrokes etc. that will make the little
duo "lay down the law" and force this drive to listen up? ;-) or
something like that!


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