>Thanks Marc for the very useful and informative explanation. My problem
>at this point is that the duo hangs (endlessly spinning cursor) whenever
>the SCSI bus is scanned looking for the drive. I CAN start the duo in
>the dock (with the dock's drive) but the new drive won't mount (show up
>on desktop). Then I can use FWB Toolkit "WorldControl" to STOP the drive
>from spinning (I can hear this) and to START it spinning. But if I use
>HDSC setup or FWB Toolkit's HD Primer or "SuperSpot" (HD formatter) the
>computer hangs (as mentioned above) as soon as any of these programs
>scans the SCSI bus looking for the available drives.

It's probably not the SCSI hardware on the drive that's causing the 
problem, but the state of the driver descriptor map and the installed 
driver. The Mac OS is particularly stupid about dealing with corrupt 
drivers on a device, and it can be difficult to work around the 
mounting problem and fix the drive. It's particularly difficult with 
a Powerbook drive because the data connection is also the power 
connection. I can remember having to disconnect the drive, boot the 
Powerbook (with open case) from an external device, put it to sleep, 
reconnect the drive, and then wake it up, just to avoid having a 
corrupt driver loaded at boot time (and the resultant hang) so I 
could work with it and fix the problem. Since you seem to be able to 
boot from another drive while the 80MB is attached this may not be a 
problem for you, but you may need to boot with 
command-option-shift-delete to force the Duo to ignore the driver on 
the internal disk.

As you can tell I've gotten drives into a state similar to what you 
describe in the past. ;)  One way you can possibly fix the problem is 
to manually edit the partition map and driver partition with Norton 
Disk Editor. You need to use a little trick of the editor program 
where you rescan the SCSI bus, hold down command-shift (or something 
like that) while popping up the device list, and then open the raw 
SCSI device (instead of the Mac volume). Then you can go in and zero 
the entire partition map (the first few blocks on the disk) and 
perhaps the driver partition for good measure. Then shutdown and 
restart, and you may find the formatting tools can work with the disk 
again.

It's also possible that the drive's mode page settings (a small 
reserved area on the disk) have gotten haywire, which could appear as 
a hardware problem. Those are generally set to a known state by Mac 
formatting tools when they install a driver, but you can also set 
them manually or to an "optimal" state with a tool like FWB Configure 
or Charismac Powercontrol (be aware that it's optimal for each 
company's respective driver, but it's unlikely to make much 
difference on an old drive like that one).

-- 
Marc Sira               |       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"If you can't play with words, what good are they?"


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