Hi!

A Anopheles wrote:
> Hi there
> 
> dvbcut is a great success at allowing me to chop ads etc from programs
> that I capture from terrestrial digital television via mythtv. I usually 
> * chop captured material into useful MPG files.
> * convert to xvid
> * view xvid files on the computer or on my mpeg4-compatible domestic dvd 
> player.
> 
> I would like to be able to avoid the conversion to xvid - it just takes too 
> long. So I'm trying to go to DVD as 'directly' as possible.

That should work on most DVD players.

> I just captured from a channel that transmits in 720x576 @25fps (PAL), so I 
> was able to use dvbcut to slice it up, then make VOB files from the resulting 
> MPG without having to re-render or mess with anything else.
> 
> The MPG files play ok on linux or windows, using mplayer, mediaplayerclassic, 
> and other players.
> 
> However, the corresponding VOB files gradually (or stepwise) lose audio sync; 
> both when playing the VOB files on the computer, and after burning a DVD and 
> trying to watch it in my domestic DVD player. 

Did you remux the stream? And how did you create the VOBs?

> I guess this might be because of occasional mangled blocks - the MPG players 
> seem to be able to handle these and stay in sync (though while playing the 
> MPG files I do notice occasional jumps or frozen frames).

That's usually the reason, right.

> I am using TMPGEnc to create the VOB files.

I'm using a Windows software that came with my DVB-T receiver (Ulead 
Movie Factory 3, aka Filmbrennerei 2), and my A&V are perfectly in sync 
on the DVDs it generates.

> Question: should I suspect that TMPGEnc is buggy, and that a different DVD 
> authoring system would be better at maintaining sync? 
> or 
> Should I give up on the idea of storing captured TV programs 'directly' to 
> DVD because imperfections in the recorded stream will always lead to loss of 
> sync somewhere in the processing chain?
> or 
> Am I doing something wrong/forgetting some important step?

I vote for the first option. But I don't know if TMPGEnc is buggy; I 
never used it myself.

> Incidentally:
> 1) sync loss: on the DVD eventually the video is progressively _delayed_, 
> i.e. the speech comes first and then the lips move. In the case of loss of 
> signal due to poor reception I imagine the video signal would be more likely 
> lost than the audio, and I would have expected the video to eventually end up 
> preceeding the audio (because of missing video frames). Or am I completely 
> confused?

No you're right. Most packets are video packets, so the probability that 
  the video stream is damaged is much higher.

-- 
Michael "Tired" Riepe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Tired: Each morning I get up I die a little

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