> Ok... having come in late to this particular discussion, can I reiterate and > see if I understand this...? > > We have WTF lists. a Watched, Trust and Friends trio instead of just an > F-List. > anyone of which can either be public, private or filtered [just the list > that is] so that other people may or may not know if the list exists and > who's on it or not... > and posts to any of the three can be public, private or filtered as well... > > So that's what, three possible states per list..and three or more tick boxes > per post per list which can be any combination of three different states.... > not even counting multiple filters... > > umm... isn't this getting a tad complicated?
Oh no, no no. Okay, let's nip this whole thing in the bud just a weeeeeee bit. 1) We're not changing any exposure of private information. Who you "filter" things to is still only seen by you. You can choose to tell people (by posting that in your entry, i.e., "Denise can't see this post") if you want, but that's not something supported, mandated, enforced, or implemented in Dreamwidth. 2) WTF is not "three separate lists". It's, very simply put, a way of saying "I want to watch this person on my aggregation list" and "I want to trust this person with personal data" as two separate/discrete functions. Your "Friends Page" as you're used to on LJ, the aggregation functionality of pulling other people's content into one place for you to read, is *only* based on your "Watch List". If you "Watch" someone, their stuff will show up on your aggregation/friends page. If you want to post "Friends Only" or "Protected / Custom Group" then we use your *trust* list to determine who can see it. This is entirely separate from your watch information. You can watch someone but not trust them, or trust them but not watch them. To make this clear, here are a few examples of the main use cases: a) Denise posts a lot of things that you find interesting and you want to read. Whether it be day-to-day ramblings or fiction or anything else, you want to read it. So you "watch" her journal - you put her on your "watch list." However, you don't actually know her, so you do NOT "trust" her. You do not put her on your "trust list." So later, when you post "friends only", she will NOT be able to see it. She has no idea you made a protected post. This allows you to put someone on your aggregation/friends page without implicitly giving them access to your protected stuff. Yay! b) On the other hand, let's say that your brother gets a journal. You want to give him access to see your protected posts and you want to see what he has to say. You "watch" him AND you "trust" him and it's exactly like you're used to on LJ: he has access to stuff that you post "friends only", you can add him to "custom friends groups" and make protected posts, and his posts appear on your "friends page." This behavior is exactly the same as LJ. And just like LJ, if you make a custom filter that excludes your brother? He won't know. If you make a post to a custom filter? Nobody knows, unless you tell them. Exactly like LJ. :) That's it. It's really very simple. Watch someone = they show up on your friends page. Trust someone = they can see your friends only posts and you can add them to custom groups. It is no more complicated than that. We are not exposing any information that LJ doesn't (we are no less secure than LJ in any situation, and WTF actually gives you *more* security since you can watch without trusting). Does that make sense? :) -- Mark Smith / xb95 [email protected] _______________________________________________ dw-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.dwscoalition.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dw-discuss
