A near-real-time log display like DXA would also lessen the need for "insurance" QSOs... making it possible for the DX to get to more of the little pistols.
73, Jerry K3BZ

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Schmieder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:22 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] will this help?


Pirating is not very extensive, but it is a problem for DXpeditions, because
those unfortunate DXers who work a pirate often blame the DXpedition for
sloppy work. The K7C DXpedition is a good case in point: Quite a few DXers
told stories that we believe...they truly made a good QSO with "K7C" but the
QSO does not appear in the K7C radio log. The log is not at
fault--apparently the DXers worked pirates.

One answer to pirates is real-time online log display, of the kind we did
with DXA on K7C. Very soon after you worked the real K7C (5 minutes or so),
you saw confirmation on the DXA window (the "greenies"). If you worked a
pirate, that confirmation would not come, since the pirate cannot give the
confirming greenies. Properly used, a real-time log display would almost
totally eliminate pirates as a source of lost QSOs.

Bob KK6EK


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:46 PM
To: Charles Harpole; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] will this help?

At 05:25 AM 10/07/2006, Charles Harpole wrote:
>Will this help?
>If a DXpedition station gave out serial numbers,
incrementing for each
>QSO (like some contests ), would that retard pirates?  A
pirate could
>give out serial numbers, too, but could he ever get so close in
>sequence to the real DX to make confusion?  Also, would
serial numbers
>on the incoming QSL card requests make hand log searching easier?

I could see that slowing a pileup down to a crawl, to be
perfectly honest -- and to what end? Is call pirating really
a major problem for DXpeditions? It might make QSLing a tad
easier, but I think trying to get everyone to understand
what's being done might be an exercise in futility, and if
you think pileups are bad NOW, I'd hate to see what would
happen with serial numbers.

In this age of online logs for major DXpeditions, if I don't
see my call show up within 2 or 3 days of a QSO on a needed
band I just make another Q.



Cheers,

Peter,
W2IRT


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