Each new advance
brings those who would misuse it.
Seek their repair,
for time will not run backwards.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Osten B Magnusson
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] BS7H INTO NE USA
The deliberate QRM started to be real bad when the worldwide DX-clusters
came up on Internet. it wasn't difficult to work
BS7H in 1994 (not OK for DXCC), 1995 and 1997. Close down all DX-clusters
and working DX will again be a pleasure!
73/DX de Osten SM5DQC on the air working DX since 1962
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----- Original Message -----
From: DAVE WHITE
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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:47 AM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] BS7H INTO NE USA
Guys, unfortunately this has become the situation here in Europe. .
I really don't know where the mass of deliberate QRM comes from, though
mostly it seem to be from east or south-east into England so could come from
anywhere in Europe. Certainly a lot of the undisciplined cretins seem to be
Italians, though I'd certainly not state that it's ALL from Italians, nor
that ALL Italians are bad operators. Many a time I hear a pileup, and the DX
is asking for (say) "Alpha Bravo Charlie ONLY", but listening through the
QSX spread I still hear so many without ANY of those letters in the call
still shouting away. OK, maybe we can all mis-time a call and double with
the DX, but surely most simply aren't listening.
Just the other day JT1Y told everyone to QRX, then asked for United
Kingdom stations only - and all the deliberate QRM started immediately:
whistling, keying, white noise, swearing, blowing raspberries etc. It's
just comical.
I don't know how to explain why some people would deliberately send QRM
over a DXpedition. Perhaps patience is a lost art. Perhaps self discipline
is a lost art. Certainly here in the UK, respect for other human beings is
now a lost art, particularly in the cities where gangs of feral youths
terrorise neighbourhoods, vandalise anything in sight and stab of shoot each
other. Education is long dead in this country and has been for a generation
thanks to idiot politicians, do-gooders and political correctness - and
maybe the results of this failure are making their way across society.
Perhaps the activities of IT9RYH and IK1JUO have got the Italians an even
worse reputation and have caused everyone's patience to wear thin, but that
doesn't excuse what went on yesterday.
I';d agree that Sourthern Europe probably has good propagation to BS7 most
of the time - they seem to have good propagation everywhere most of the
time - though here in Northern Europe propagation windows are much shorter.
That was particularly pronounced with N8S. I'd also agree that an
expedition should give time to difficult-to-reach parts of the world, but
the way things are at the moment, if BS7H had called for North America only
yesterday, then there would probably have been bedlam.
Dave G0OIL
Peter Dougherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I am not by any means a newcomer to DX, but THIS is worse than ever
>-- and no one can blame the US lids for it!!! Call by numbers is
>fine -- as long as WE can hear what numbers the DX is calling!!.
>
>Shame on the world's hams!!
I Couldn't agree more. I was listening all day on both CW and SSB and
the degree of insanity I heard was unlike anything I've ever heard
anywhere, ever. I've never operated on CB but could it have been any
worse than 14185 was today? Time for a good Rettysnitching, I say.
I really don't understand what it is with (southern) European hams'
attitudes. If you believe any of the propagation prediction programs,
Europe generally has propagation to BS7 24 hours a day on at least
one band, often as many as 5 or 6 bands are good simultaneously, so
if the Scarborough guys are QRV chances are EU DXers will get a much
better shot at them than NA will. Serious European DXers will likely
get them on several bands and modes. Yet in the 3 hour window for NA,
these clowns won't stand by or stop bitching on the DX frequency.
On the other hand, it would also be nice if the team would call NA
for a few hours at a time; seemed like it was JA and EU day all day
long. I'm sure that will change in the next day or two, so I'm not
too worried. Yet .
I don't know what the answer is; perhaps the DX operators once in a
while should have a listen to their TX frequency and administer the
clue bat when things get bad. Maybe along the lines of "since you are
so badly behaved, no more Europe for the next 12 hours," and hold to it.
Cheers,
Peter,
W2IRT
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