Great examples of poor directional calling. What the ops usually mean as 
opposed to USA ONLY is NA ONLY (USA, Canada, Mexico, etc.). Also JA ONLY 
usually means, JA, JT, HL, UA 9/0, and other Asia.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Zack Widup 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Directional CQs


  I think directional CQ's can be used very wisely but how they are used 
  depends a lot on where the DX is and their knowledge of propagation.

  I imagine almost any location will have areas where propagation only 
  exists for a short time to those areas and other areas where they have 
  propagation over a much longer time period.  For instance, DXpeditions to 
  VU4, VU7, BS7 etc. only have a short time when they can work this part of 
  the USA.  They probably can work JA's for half a day on the same band. It 
  would make sense for them to call "USA only" during that hour or so and 
  work JA's when they don't have limited openings to this and other areas.

  DXpeditions to the mid-Pacific have propagation to EU on the low bands 
  till the sun rises in EU. They have propagation to the USA during part of 
  this time but they continue to have propagation for another 4-6 hours to 
  the USA.  After the sun rises in USA they still have propagation to JA. 
  It would make sense to work only EU till they lose propagation, then USA 
  till they lose propagation, then work JA's for a while.

  Some past DXpeditions didn't do this.

  Clipperton Island is in an interesting location.  It appears it's in the 
  same region that has Mountain time in the USA. The sun rises there before 
  it does in California.  So on the low bands they would want to work both 
  USA and JA's till their sun rises. So maybe non-directionsl CQ's are the 
  best bet under those circumstances.

  It definitely takes some planning and study of propagation charts to make 
  most DXers happy.

  73, Zack W9SZ


  On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Peter Dougherty wrote:

  > At 10:52 PM 3/16/2008, Charles Harpole wrote:
  >> Many recent DXpeditions have, in my opinion, over-studied the data to 
serve 
  >> "under served areas", have propagation charts, and be extra aware of their 
  >> "important position" as the only (last?) hams to be at that locale.  One 
  >> effect is the extensive use of DIRECTIONAL CQs... usually "only EU" or 
  >> "only NA."
  >
  > This is one of my biggest gripes in DXing (well, that and "by the 
numbers"). 
  > Human nature says that whenever  you exclude a group of people for whatever 
  > "good" reason you have, the excluded will generally take offense and 
  > resentment will start to form, regardless whether this is rational or not.
  >
  > As such, there really is only one solution to this problem, and that's to 
  > open it up to everyone, everywhere for as long as possible (though I do 
think 
  > looking for the hardest parts of the world from where the DX is operating 
on 
  > the low bands, at the grey-line, is excellent operating practice). What 
this 
  > means, on the other hand, is the DX station needs to be skilled enough to 
  > handle the onslaught of callers from everywhere and have equipment and 
  > abilities to work the pileup down efficiently.
  >
  > The other problem with directional calls is CW - It's very difficult on CW 
to 
  > convey a sense of where you want to hear from. It's easy to send USA or NA, 
  > but that leaves out Central and South America - would the DX want those 
too? 
  > Or does he really JUST want the US/Canada? Ditto for calling for JA, but 
  > leaving out the rest of Asia, VK and ZL, or EU but not Africa, the 
  > middle-East or western Asia, etc. It's easier on SSB and RTTY, but still, 
the 
  > longer it takes to say WHO/WHERE you're listening for, the bigger and more 
  > unruly the pileup will get.
  >
  > It's easier for the pileup and the operator to send "XX1XXX QRZ UP" than 
  > "XX1XXX QRZ EU AFRICA AND MIDDLE EAST ONLY" or whatever. Sure, the wall 
will 
  > become louder on and near your QSX, but just work the loudest ones. 
  > Eventually you'll either get tired and go for an 807, or you'll run out of 
  > 59++ signals and you'll get to dig deeper to the ones who are "only" 59, 
then 
  > the 57s, then the 55s, etc...at least till you get spotted and get another 
  > round of 20-overs calling you again. If you have a rock-solid wall of noise 
  > with nothing leaping out at you, expand your QSX range to 5 or 7 kHz on 
SSB. 
  > Maybe even 10 if it's unusually bad. Work the edges, pick off the big guns. 
  > Eventually, you'll settle down to a single QSX with luck, pick 'em off with 
  > little effort. I sure can't speak for HS-land, but when I was on C6 I found 
  > that to be the easiest way to make Q's...take all callers. Though I DID 
take 
  > EU only for a couple of hours one night as I wanted to boost my country 
count 
  > a little.
  >
  >
  >
  > Regards,
  >
  > Peter,
  > W2IRT 
  >


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